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Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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post #5

Like most titles that end with a question mark - "no". Why would you use some kind of acoustic wave system over tried and true maglev?

It probably would still use maglev to eliminate the friction between surfaces. The acoustic waves would be a means of propulsion.

Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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post #8

"Elon Musks final invention will be a time machine. It will only work once before exploding. Before entering it, Elon will turn around and tell us he has done his duty and given us many gifts, and now we must use those gifts to advance mankind. He hopes great things for us. We beg for him to stay and aid us further. He smiles sadly, He looks at us with his tired but happy eyes, shakes his head, and steps into the mac…

That was beautiful.

Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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post #2

> it's not an evacuated tunnel Really? I thought it was already established that the Hyperloop is a vactrain ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain ). Using small cars (say, six passengers) accomplishes the "leaves when you arrive" and putting solar panels on top of the tunnel accomplishes the storing energy part. I wonder what the alternative would be and what its advantages over a vactrain would be.

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Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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I can't figure out how the OP proposal differs from Charles Alexander's. Low frequency (long wavelength) waves travel around the tube at the speed of sound. By traveling at the same speed, and correctly choosing a point along the wavefront, one can take advantage of significantly reduced apparent drag. It's implicit in Alexander's suggestion that either (a) the total length of the loop is an integer multiple of the w…

I don't think there is any distinction. He's just reblogging. He did link the original at least.

Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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Not to be funny, but it seems like every other day has another "hyperloop uses acoustic waves" article. It's a good guess, but it doesn't even contain new speculation (another article went into detailed theorising about how cars would accelerate and decelerate).

Seriously, until we have a solid info, or even a new guess, can we lay off Hyperloop?

Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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I can't figure out how the OP proposal differs from Charles Alexander's. Low frequency (long wavelength) waves travel around the tube at the speed of sound. By traveling at the same speed, and correctly choosing a point along the wavefront, one can take advantage of significantly reduced apparent drag. It's implicit in Alexander's suggestion that either (a) the total length of the loop is an integer multiple of the w…

I think main difference is Charles thought it with his brain, whereas I felt it with my gut.

No, jokes aside, the reason I wrote this up is that I wasn't entirely convinced of the exact physics laid out in Charles' post (I think e.g. Daniele Foresti et al [1] liked from my post may have more interesting model). Also, Charles seemed to assume that the wave would be there only to reduce drag, not to propel the capsule/car. That doesn't sound like Musk to me.

But most importantly I think I bring to the table a careful poetic analysis of the Hyperloop. My work in this case is not in physics (where I actually do have my training), but in literature.

1. http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/07/10/1301860110

Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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post #25

I can't figure out how the OP proposal differs from Charles Alexander's. Low frequency (long wavelength) waves travel around the tube at the speed of sound. By traveling at the same speed, and correctly choosing a point along the wavefront, one can take advantage of significantly reduced apparent drag. It's implicit in Alexander's suggestion that either (a) the total length of the loop is an integer multiple of the w…

I don't think there is any distinction. He's just reblogging. He did link the original at least.

Not so, I felt it with my own gut!

Another difference is in Charles' model you would have to travel at the speed of sound. Due to the shape not being a perfect line airflow will have to be supersonic somewhere over the surface of the craft. That's generally not good for energy efficient travel. My "design" allows for the capsule traveling at subsonic speeds.

Re: Hyperloop lets you travel on a resonant acoustic wave?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drag? And by the way - the title doesn't end in a question mark. ;)

It does on HN : P Well, the acoustic idea wouldn't solve drag at all. The craft would still have to move through air.

You're right! Well, I didn't put it there... That I can remember at least.
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