Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by cjc » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:40 PM UTC

chaostheory wrote: post #15

cjc wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please do not make this a personal attack on me, one member of the community. I argue that submitting nothing is better than submitting garbage links. Additionally, I am not bringing the site down by voting up egregious headlines.

I think what kyro is trying to say is, if you don't like what you see on HN - why not submit the type of articles you'd like to see, hopefully starting a trend? imho it doesn't help that your post sounds more like whiny bitching than constructive criticism

Fair enough, and I agree with that.

but look at the behavior of the community right now. The highest voted comment on this post is basically a "screw you dude" and all of my responses are downvoted without any reasons given.

Below in comments I stated what I personally would like to see change, but that too is downvoted without explanation.

These reactions are reinforcing my original point: Though many precautions were taken, Hacker News is no more immune to large group behavior than were Digg and Reddit. The community has reached a tipping point.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by stonemetal » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:40 PM UTC

Have you flagged the stupid stuff? It is only because users don't flag it that it stays around.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:40 PM UTC

cjc wrote: post #6

kyro wrote: post #3

You've only made 3 submissions yourself. HN isn't a service being provided to you, whereby you sit and expect it to present you with interesting stories.

And actually, for all intents and purposes, HN is a service being provided to me, whereby I sit and expect it to present me with interesting stories. How is it any different for you?

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Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by cjc » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:40 PM UTC

mtinkerhess wrote: post #19

Each of the posts you mention satisfied my intellectual curiosity way more than this one does.

my point exactly.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by yaj » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:43 PM UTC

What you can do is filter the results using searchyc. If you are only interested on start up reviews search something like "ask hn review" and grab the rss.

http://searchyc.com/ask+hn+review

Hope that helps

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:45 PM UTC

colins_pride wrote: post #20

cjc wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can the downvoters please explain why you are voting me down?

If they could vote your submission down, they would. They can't, so they're voting your comments down. If that doesn't make sense to you, just give it a few more minutes and the submission will probably be flagged dead.

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Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:47 PM UTC

cjc wrote: post #21

chaostheory wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what kyro is trying to say is, if you don't like what you see on HN - why not submit the type of articles you'd like to see, hopefully starting a trend? imho it doesn't help that your post sounds more like whiny bitching than constructive criticism

Fair enough, and I agree with that. but look at the behavior of the community right now. The highest voted comment on this post is basically a "screw you dude" and all of my responses are downvoted without any reasons given. Below in comments I stated what I personally would like to see change, but that too is downvoted without explanation. These reactions are reinforcing my original point: Though many precautions we…

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Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by jey » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:49 PM UTC

noonespecial wrote: post #4

Whenever I think HN is becoming too reddit-like, I go spend some time on reddit. I always feel better after.

"We aren't catching up to reddit" isn't very reassuring. A downward slide is still a downward slide.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by stcredzero » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:53 PM UTC

noonespecial wrote: post #4

Whenever I think HN is becoming too reddit-like, I go spend some time on reddit. I always feel better after.

That this headline got so many upvotes on reddit is, to borrow a word, "mind-blowing" to me.

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/8k9f2/dear_reddi...

Are basic electromagnetic principles big news to such a large segment of the populace? (A segment that is internet-savvy and fancies itself as being more sophisticated somehow.) Unfortunately, when basic physics comes up with my Stanford-educated girlfriend, I see more evidence of how far the US education system has degenerated. (When I explain, she gets it, but the education system simply didn't effectively equip her with the knowledge.)

Not only do they not know, they don't even have a framework for knowing the magnitude of their ignorance.

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/8k9f2/dear_reddi...

Or is that a troll? Please, God, let it not be real and be a troll!

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by chaosmachine » Thu, May 14, 2009, 4:54 PM UTC

hvs wrote: post #13

cjc wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad you asked: * more news about Startups, less news about things tangentially related to startups * less churn on the homepage * a community made exclusively of people actually building websites * a limit on accepting new members * less talk about useless academic subjects * more "review my new project" submissions

That doesn't sound like "Hacker News" at all. That sounds like "Startup News". Why are people building websites the only ones you find helpful? Why are academic subjects bad? I agree that there are more than a few links that don't interest me, but that doesn't mean I throw up my arms and say, "Well, that's it! This site has jumped the shark!"

Hacker News was originally called Startup News.