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David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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First off, I hate it how they always try to frame new laws as trying to "protect" people. The same with airline searches and the whole PRISM deal. Also, I read somewhere on the subject of child pornography that allowing those people to look at images cuts down on the act because they seem to "get their fix." I can't remember where I read this so I can't provide a source, but it seems to make sense.

It works, that's why they do it.

I do wonder how many people will accept to this out of shame.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

#24
Same tactics everywhere,

Mandatory internet Filters on every ISP as a precaution against pornography or child pornography. Same crippled laws as Turkey. Nobody is prevented reaching porn. But most of the time filters are used against so called "piracy", "extremist" political or "regional" views and these kinds of political agendas. Currently websites pro-evolution are struggling censorship.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #16

Are there any real studies on the "corrosive influence" of porn on children? I'm pretty sure every young teen boy has seen porn these days. The only actual studies I'm aware of say that porn reduces actually violent sex crimes. It acts as a substitute.

> In one study surveying 471 Dutch teens ages 13 to 18, the researchers found that the more often young people sought out online porn, the more likely they were to have a "recreational" attitude toward sex--specifically, to view sex as a purely physical function like eating or drinking.

> [T]he team also found a relationship between porn use and the feeling that it wasn't necessary to have affection for people to have sex with them.

However,

> [R]esearchers can't say for sure whether access to Internet porn causes certain attitudes and behaviors.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/nov07/webporn.aspx

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #15

`The government today has made a significant step forward in preventing rapists using rape pornography to legitimise and strategise their crimes and, more broadly, in challenging the eroticisation of violence against women and girls` What? In what world would 90% of ANY porn be legitimate?! I want rapists using strategies found in the fake garbage you can find online, at least then they will be less effective than th…

In one way we got what we asked for. Whenever the argument was made that Google, British Telecom, et al, had a "moral duty" to censor pornography, we were able to simply say that this was an empty argument and that the only duty the companies had was to follow the law of the land.

Now, by changing the law, the companies have a legal duty.

That is what I and others have wanted, censorship is something we are able to attack through established channels. The politicians are of the view that this wins votes, now we find out whether they are right or wrong.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #16

Are there any real studies on the "corrosive influence" of porn on children? I'm pretty sure every young teen boy has seen porn these days. The only actual studies I'm aware of say that porn reduces actually violent sex crimes. It acts as a substitute.

It's extremely difficult to quantify negative impacts or get people to accurately recall what they may or may not have seen. It's almost as difficult to approve studies on children.

This study:

http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/cpb.2005.8.473

Showed a correlation between children who seek out porn on the internet and delinquency. However, there's no indication of causation.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #16

Are there any real studies on the "corrosive influence" of porn on children? I'm pretty sure every young teen boy has seen porn these days. The only actual studies I'm aware of say that porn reduces actually violent sex crimes. It acts as a substitute.

Citation, please? Everything I've seen suggests that porn is pretty socially debilitating, especially for the current generation which has grown up with almost ubiquitous access to it (see for example http://www.internetsafety101.org/upload/file/Social%20Costs%...). And that's not even the really nasty stuff.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

#29

First off, I hate it how they always try to frame new laws as trying to "protect" people. The same with airline searches and the whole PRISM deal. Also, I read somewhere on the subject of child pornography that allowing those people to look at images cuts down on the act because they seem to "get their fix." I can't remember where I read this so I can't provide a source, but it seems to make sense.

Yep. Or it's for "national security purposes". One of many beautiful euphemisms they employ. This is completely absurd. Do people believe in a free and open Internet, or do they not? Government asking us to make "declarations" over the content we want access to or what we may or may not search for is an absurdly dangerous precedent. IMO, imposing morality typically tends to make whatever problem worse.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #25
post #16

Are there any real studies on the "corrosive influence" of porn on children? I'm pretty sure every young teen boy has seen porn these days. The only actual studies I'm aware of say that porn reduces actually violent sex crimes. It acts as a substitute.

> In one study surveying 471 Dutch teens ages 13 to 18, the researchers found that the more often young people sought out online porn, the more likely they were to have a "recreational" attitude toward sex--specifically, to view sex as a purely physical function like eating or drinking. > [T]he team also found a relationship between porn use and the feeling that it wasn't necessary to have affection for people to hav…

Also, I know it's outside the scope of this research, but it's yet to be demonstrated that a recreational attitude toward sex leads to lower well-being.
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