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iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

#21
Why do designers pull numbers out of their ass to make a concept sound more appealing? "Dual quad core processor!" yeah, well my concept has dual octocore processors and my concept will be liquid cooled! I mean phase change cooled!

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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The icons in those home screen mockups look a heck of a lot better than the real ones: http://apple.com/ios/ios7

I think it's what will most likely happen over time - elements and affordances from the old design will bleed into the stark minimalism of the new one (along with new ideas). The iOS 7 design is minimal in order to be a blank slate.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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That Magsafe Lightning concept would never work. Not only is there not enough space to fit powerful enough magnets, not only is the Lightning connector 8-pin, but one of the only reasons MagSafe even works is that laptops are strong enough to still be in the same place if tugged slightly. Your phone will now not only be tugged along with the cord, but will then disconnect more easily and fly across the room.

I disagree. Just build a strong magnet in there (as was suggested, maybe via the speaker). The advantage of the connector would not be the disconnect-on-trip feature, but rather convenience for plugging and unplugging. Namely, it's a lot easier to just have the cord snap it place magnetically than to futz around with the small metal tip[0].

You're assuming it'd either be too weak or too strong. They would calibrate it until it was "just right", as they do (or try to do) with pretty much all of their ergonomics decisions.

[0] Anecdotally, I own both a MagSafe 2 device and an iPhone 5.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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post #8

The design looks amazing, even though most people will probably have the device covered up with a phone cover. Also retina 2 sounds like i would need 3 versions of every image in my app which is getting to be a bit much.

On a related note, I feel like this issue (non-retina, retina, iphone 5 version, ipad version, older iOS support, etc) and the over-saturated app store have really stifled the indie development world. It takes a lot more effort to make a nicely packaged app today than in 2008-2009, and then you launch on the store and you're just one in 800,000 or w/e.

To me, it's kind of like how the first people on Youtube now have millions of views, but good luck starting a new YT account today...

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

#27
I don't understand the point of these mockups unless they have an actual prototype. It's easy to hand-wave about how great a product will be that can't be built. The borderless glass is probably a non-starter because of chipping. And why would you make an aluminum/carbon fiber composite? Aluminum and carbon fiber both serve the same purpose in a composite structure. You'd use something like a metal-matrix aluminum composite instead, set in resin.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did my master's thesis on aluminum/carbon fiber composites and typically they mean infiltrating liquid aluminum through weaves of carbon fiber. But these materials are hard as hell to make. Carbon and aluminum do not get along for a variety of reasons, and aluminum/carbon composites remain a pie-in-the-sky concept. One of the ways they make Al/C composites now is through a process called squeeze casting, whereby th…

How much additional effort is that on top of the current process of making gorilla glass, though? I believe it already requires some mighty temperatures+pressures.

High temperatures are true of glass work in general. I'm not 100% about the gorilla glass process, but I did not think it high pressure one.

And high pressure is not a deal breaker -- it's just the best way to make some things right now. But even after you've forced carbon and aluminum together, you have a variety of other issues then to deal with: large potential for galvanic corrosion and huge difference in coefficient of thermal expansion are two of the primary ones. The fact that they have horrible wetting behavior is another one, and is the reason they have to do squeeze casting in the first place, but likely also negatively affects the quality of the interface formed between the carbon and the aluminum (thus leading to poor properties even after you've spent all the effort of making it)

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

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post #27

I don't understand the point of these mockups unless they have an actual prototype. It's easy to hand-wave about how great a product will be that can't be built. The borderless glass is probably a non-starter because of chipping. And why would you make an aluminum/carbon fiber composite? Aluminum and carbon fiber both serve the same purpose in a composite structure. You'd use something like a metal-matrix aluminum co…

It's really difficult for me to look at something like this as someone with even the barest of comprehensions as to how complicated some of this would be to even do, much less well enough that it would make sense to put in a consumer product this year.

Oh, you're going to make the screen out of graphene? My mockups are exactly the same as yours, but instead of aluminum my case is made of diamond. I've solved the chipping problem!

To be clear, I think that these are really attractive visual mockups with some interesting concepts, but I have seen literally every one of them before elsewhere.

Re: iPhone 6: An edgy concept

#30

I love the idea of wrapping the display around the side of the phone and having touch sensors to detect when you're holding your phone. I have this problem where I'm holding the phone with one hand and trying to press something with my thumb. It doesn't register as a touch because part of my hand is contacting the front of the screen, causing my action to be interpreted as some sort of two-finger gesture. With accura…

iOS 7 solves this to some degree by letting you swipe from the edge in place of tapping the navigation buttons in the titlebar.
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