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that what it seems like
No, it's nothing like Swoopo, it's not in that space at all. It's also 'like' a reverse auction but it's not. It's not in medical or in military but it is a very big industry. It's actually targeted towards construction initially. But it's NOT in construction.
> This is an expenses paid (but no wage) internship I'm expecting to save $3000 CAD/month this summer as an intern after all expenses (I'm living cheaply, but my wages are quite average). The work I'll be doing is also a great deal more interesting, I suspect, than any web startup could ever offer. While I would't expect to make as much money if I was working for a startup, this offer is simply a rip off. As referenc…
I know this isn't true of all coders, I know there are some good guys out there who would take a risk and would do this to benefit from the greater reward. Working for equity is clearly not something you are interested in. Nor is the environment of a startup. Why are you here then?
> This is an expenses paid (but no wage) internship I'm expecting to save $3000 CAD/month this summer as an intern after all expenses (I'm living cheaply, but my wages are quite average). The work I'll be doing is also a great deal more interesting, I suspect, than any web startup could ever offer. While I would't expect to make as much money if I was working for a startup, this offer is simply a rip off. As referenc…
This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. But we have now discovered that European students are more than interested in this opportunity; students from the top Universities, but the commenters here are giving the impression that it's too below American kids and that the only thing they find valuable in return for their time is money. Honestly, I love America bu…
That's different. Equity is a form of payment (although, admittedly, it is a gamble). However, the way that you advertised it here really makes it sound like you are looking for free work, and a naieve student to take advantage of. And working without any sort of compensation is indeed being taken advantage of.
Also, as a side note, I suspect (and Google seems to support) that American students have far higher costs for going to university -- I believe that in Europe, the tuition fees are significantly cheaper thanks to government subsidies. With lower costs, there's less pressure to earn money to cover the costs.
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This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. But we have now discovered that European students are more than interested in this opportunity; students from the top Universities, but the commenters here are giving the impression that it's too below American kids and that the only thing they find valuable in return for their time is money. Honestly, I love America bu…
> This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. That's different. Equity is a form of payment (although, admittedly, it is a gamble). However, the way that you advertised it here really makes it sound like you are looking for free work, and a naieve student to take advantage of. And working without any sort of compensation is indeed being taken advantage of. Also,…
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This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. But we have now discovered that European students are more than interested in this opportunity; students from the top Universities, but the commenters here are giving the impression that it's too below American kids and that the only thing they find valuable in return for their time is money. Honestly, I love America bu…
> This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. That's different. Equity is a form of payment (although, admittedly, it is a gamble). However, the way that you advertised it here really makes it sound like you are looking for free work, and a naieve student to take advantage of. And working without any sort of compensation is indeed being taken advantage of. Also,…
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This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. But we have now discovered that European students are more than interested in this opportunity; students from the top Universities, but the commenters here are giving the impression that it's too below American kids and that the only thing they find valuable in return for their time is money. Honestly, I love America bu…
> This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. That's different. Equity is a form of payment (although, admittedly, it is a gamble). However, the way that you advertised it here really makes it sound like you are looking for free work, and a naieve student to take advantage of. And working without any sort of compensation is indeed being taken advantage of. Also,…
You make a valid point above. We are not looking to screw people out of money. We were hoping to offer someone a good experience, and begin line up future employees for when we could afford to pay them.
We apologies, we appear to be poorer than the students :)
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> This is a chance to become a full time employee, the first, with equity and a say in the business. That's different. Equity is a form of payment (although, admittedly, it is a gamble). However, the way that you advertised it here really makes it sound like you are looking for free work, and a naieve student to take advantage of. And working without any sort of compensation is indeed being taken advantage of. Also,…
ori_b, please don't take this all so personally. We are trying to keep costs as low as possible in our startup. Is there such harm in asking? If we get someone, great, if we don't there is no damage done. You make a valid point above. We are not looking to screw people out of money. We were hoping to offer someone a good experience, and begin line up future employees for when we could afford to pay them. We apologies…
Just put it into the ad next time, and it might look less like you're trying to screw the students over.
For as much as HN'ers like to complain about day jobs and their stupid managers, I'd just like to point out that this is one of the least professional job postings I've ever seen. Let the downvotes begin! :)
'day jobs and their stupid managers' This says a lot about your maturity and attitude dude. Your manager is your manager for a reason, one day you'll work it out, I'm not going to help turn the bulb on, you'll find the switch one day. I also note, it's normally people in 'day jobs' that has as negative an attitude in life as you. We're offering the chance to join our dream not to work as a slave!
If you want to criticize something, you should do so with the experience of having done a better job at it. (Yes, I have written job postings, and I take great care and pride in crafting them.)