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Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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It's a little like the BBC world service news, which is pretty good (especially compared to sky and cnn and so on), except you can't get it in the UK ... it even has the same presenters that are on the normal BBC 24 News, and 10 o'clock news! It's weird to say the least. But it gets even more weird, as programmes made by the licence pay version of the BBC appear on the world service news. I was watching it a week ago…

> So what is that doing being shown on the commercial arm of the BBC?

BBC World News is distinct from BBC Worldwide, they're different commercial groups. It has a much closer relationship with BBC News, which is publicly funded. BBC Worldwide exists to make a profit, whereas BBC World News is commercially funded but not profit driven. It's...complicated.

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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THIS! In the last few years the BBC have produced nothing but period dramas and drivel all of it aimed at the american market. Why make quality british programming for the British market any more when you can make a 'UK series' (6 eps) and make pure profit in the US market.

Sherlock alone is enough to disprove that hyperbolic statement.

They aren't perfect by any means but have managed to produce some gems. They often don't fully appreciate that they are gems when making them mind you.

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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post #22

It's a little like the BBC world service news, which is pretty good (especially compared to sky and cnn and so on), except you can't get it in the UK ... it even has the same presenters that are on the normal BBC 24 News, and 10 o'clock news! It's weird to say the least. But it gets even more weird, as programmes made by the licence pay version of the BBC appear on the world service news. I was watching it a week ago…

> So what is that doing being shown on the commercial arm of the BBC? BBC World News is distinct from BBC Worldwide, they're different commercial groups. It has a much closer relationship with BBC News, which is publicly funded. BBC Worldwide exists to make a profit, whereas BBC World News is commercially funded but not profit driven. It's...complicated.

Thanks, it certainly is :)

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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THIS! In the last few years the BBC have produced nothing but period dramas and drivel all of it aimed at the american market. Why make quality british programming for the British market any more when you can make a 'UK series' (6 eps) and make pure profit in the US market.

Any institution that has given us the ending of Blackadder Goes Forth (the best 90 seconds of television ever filmed), Top Gear, Red Dwarf, Blake's 7 and The New Statesman and Sherlock just cannot do much wrong in my opinion.

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you aren't a fan of various BBC programmes, doesn't mean that other people aren't either. Many people in the UK really enjoy all the period drama stuff that they show. That the US market also enjoys it is an added bonus. Please don't project your own opinions onto the rest of the UK.

I don't, they cost a shit load of money to make, and unlike commercial companies have a guaranteed budget for the TV licence..

A series of Downton Abbey costs approx £12MM and reaches 13MM people in the UK alone[1].

The 2hr pilot episode of LOST cost $12MM[2]. Each episode of Game of Thrones has a budget of $6MM[3].

So no, they don't cost a lot of money to make, relatively speaking.

Edit: sources.

[1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8717969/Trench...

[2] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1...

[3] http://www.contactmusic.com/news/game-of-thrones-costs-6-mil...

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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It's a little like the BBC world service news, which is pretty good (especially compared to sky and cnn and so on), except you can't get it in the UK ... it even has the same presenters that are on the normal BBC 24 News, and 10 o'clock news! It's weird to say the least. But it gets even more weird, as programmes made by the licence pay version of the BBC appear on the world service news. I was watching it a week ago…

They're simply not allowed to have ads (or direct subscriber fees) in front of the license-paid British public. The same content may be available elsewhere with adverts or fees (and that does provide a substantial chunk of their income), but those extra money-making bits are only allowed offshore. The British public have already paid for what they get, so double-dipping is not allowed. (And unlike some other "public" broadcasters, your programming isn't regularly preempted for fundraising begathons featuring programming that almost none of the regular viewers like.)

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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A BBC Worldwide spokesman said: [...] 'Under the BBC’s Fair Trading rules commercial websites are not allowed to receive unfair promotion from the BBC’s public services. 'This prevents us from being able to provide Future content on BBC.co.uk. genres. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208251/Global-BBC-w... (daily mail, so you have to scroll way down past the righteous indignation to get the facts)

>> 'Under the BBC’s Fair Trading rules commercial websites are not allowed to receive unfair promotion from the BBC’s public services. So don't promote it on the publicly funded sites. Done. >> 'This prevents us from being able to provide Future content on BBC.co.uk. genres. All that's saying is "we can't put this stuff on our UK sites". I'm not criticising the parent post by the way, but this just sounds like more n…

I think it's really important to have some context for this. It's not just a matter of "we can't show ads" - more that the BBC cannot enter certain markets in the UK that fall outside their remit.

A number of years ago, the BBC ran a lot of websites that were extremely useful but not directly related to their broadcast output.

Unfortunately (for the general public), commercial broadcasters and publishers made persistant and vocal complaints that they were being irreparably harmed by the BBC entering into markets that were well outside their broadcasting remit. This led to a number of those sites getting shut down, and the BBC's web remit being considerably tightened inside the UK.

BBC Worldwide operates to a certain degree 'at arms length' from the publicly funded BBC, and is able to enter markets that are outside the BBC's normal remit. However, it is severely restrained on entering those markets in the UK, due to the perceived advantage the company has over other commercial competitors.

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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I wanted to read this exact same article yesterday, clicked on the link and got the same "reason" page. I thought about configuring a proxy to try and get it to load, but then thought "fuck it" and just gave up.

It is ridiculous and the lawyers that cause this to happen are so short sighted about how the internet works that its laughable. However as my actions show, it is annoying enough for people to give up and just accept it.

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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So this stuff we are "forced" to pay for via the TV licence, but we cannot see.. Think the BBC should be privatised.. TopGear is worth a few million for a start...

Top Gear is privatized. That's what BBC Worldwide is about. They sell the programme to foreign markets, they also licence it if countries want to make their own version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear_%282002_TV_series%29#...
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