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Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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Dharmesh is a smart guy and I enjoy his blog entries, but I just don't see eye-to-eye with him on #7 (Projects vs. Businesses). We're not business people (most of us); we're just trying to create cool things and subsequently be freed from the shackles of the nine-to-five life. The great thing about Internet entrepreneurship is that it's relatively easy to get off the ground, and subsequently we can create products th…

Thanks for the compliment. I've struggled with articulating my position on this issue, and still haven't nailed it yet. Here's another pass:

I completely get the fact that projects are not a bad thing. Most of the best businesses actually started out as projects.

It makes total sense for me that startups should pursue building something people want (and make that the focus). However, a subset of these are projects that seek to build something people want AND that they will pay for. I'd further argue that within this particular subset of ideas, the optimal choice might be to build something people will pay for from the get go. In these cases, it would be sub-optimal to simply strive to build something people want.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that in some situations, trying to find the problem that people want solved AND will pay for ends up putting the startup on the right idea wheresa if they simply tried to build something people want, they may wind up in the wrong place.

Not all software is best served by creating something that will be subsidized by another activity (like advertising). I think it's jumping too quickly to that assumption that I think has the chance of being misguided. Sometimes the right answer is building something that people will part with money for and you have to start with that end in mind to really get there.

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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post #5
post #3

"I think YC leans a bit too heavily towards the 'build it and they will come' model and for inexperienced entrepreneurs (just about all of the YC founders), this can distort reality." MSPW != field of dreams. What YC actually says is that MSPW is more important than monetization.

or more precisely, harder

oops. yay for clear thinking :-)

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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post #14

The "gifted" is a little misleading. We're pretty explicit that we think succeeding in a startup depends more on determination than intelligence. Oddly enough, though, "gang" is on the mark. One of the unexpected consequences of funding large batches of startups is that they form a fairly tough peer-to-peer mesh to help one another.

So, does the gang have a hand signal?

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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post #3

"I think YC leans a bit too heavily towards the 'build it and they will come' model and for inexperienced entrepreneurs (just about all of the YC founders), this can distort reality." MSPW != field of dreams. What YC actually says is that MSPW is more important than monetization.

mspw?

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

#25
post #10

Gang for the gifted? I kinda thought of Y Combinator as a School of Rock for web entrepreneurs. ("One great website can change the world!")

' School of Rock for web entrepreneurs.'

I cracked up reading this (after having seen a repeat of it) & also because pg's post really does puts the 'gifted' quote from the original post into perspective. You've got to have the 'determination' to build the best damn product (performance) you can.

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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post #3

"I think YC leans a bit too heavily towards the 'build it and they will come' model and for inexperienced entrepreneurs (just about all of the YC founders), this can distort reality." MSPW != field of dreams. What YC actually says is that MSPW is more important than monetization.

mspw?

It could mean 'Midwestern States Pro Wrestling' but I think they mean 'Make Something People Want'

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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I'd like to hear from those who "consciously chose not to apply at all". So far it seems that if you're going to build a typical web startup, then being funded by pg is always a net positive... I'm more interested in learning about the other ways of doing it.

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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post #14

The "gifted" is a little misleading. We're pretty explicit that we think succeeding in a startup depends more on determination than intelligence. Oddly enough, though, "gang" is on the mark. One of the unexpected consequences of funding large batches of startups is that they form a fairly tough peer-to-peer mesh to help one another.

So, does the gang have a hand signal?

Probably the finger-wag:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/socialmoth/405509951

(Rtm started it.)

Re: Why Combinator? Should You Join Paul Graham's Gang For The Gifted?

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, does the gang have a hand signal?

Probably the finger-wag: http://www.flickr.com/photos/socialmoth/405509951 (Rtm started it.)

shudder

I just don't get people who use segway without trying to make a joke. Is walking so hard?

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