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Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by gexla »

This seems like a much better move. If I wanted to disappear, I would much rather take my chances in rural areas where people are less likely to be watching the news rather than a city which has my picture on banners and screens everywhere. All I would need is the middle ground between remote and having a functional internet connection. Then I would just setup a cottage, create a business profile and financial accounts in my partner's name (which would likely be my girlfriend, probably on a fast track to marriage, who I recently met in my new home in South America) and do whatever freelance work I would need to get by (I'm sure Snowden could find quite a bit of work with his tech skills.)

I'm not sure I would want for WikiLeaks to be announcing my moves, but this is probably something you can't escape, so might as well take the help from one of the players who are reporting the story.

ETA: Or maybe I spoke too soon. I'm not sure anyone really knows where he is going.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by Nrsolis »

jnbiche wrote: post #17
kator wrote: post #2

Looks like he walked right through a legal loop hole (for now).

There are no legal niceties here. This is about raw military power (Russia's) and spheres of influence (again, Russia's).

What's really sad is that this guy is going to learn really fast that he's now in a sphere where the rules simply don't apply.

He's put himself in play and he's going to learn very quickly that he has few friends where a nation considers the information in his brain essential to their national security.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Flight-Falcon-Manhunt-Americas/dp/...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falcon_and_the_Snowman

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by Nrsolis »

darxius wrote: post #20

I wonder if this will see Wikileaks become a sort of worldwide whistleblower protection agency. Seeing as most countries don't exactly have the best whistleblower protection programs.

Exactly how would this work? WikiArmy?

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by Nursie »

Nrsolis wrote: post #23
darxius wrote: post #20

I wonder if this will see Wikileaks become a sort of worldwide whistleblower protection agency. Seeing as most countries don't exactly have the best whistleblower protection programs.

Exactly how would this work? WikiArmy?

Sure. A modern underground railroad if thats what it takes.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by brown9-2 »

Andrew_Quentin wrote: post #14
spdy wrote: post #10

How does diplomatic immunity work if you are in the entourage of an diplomat?

I would think the plane is safe and perhaps the plane could be considered as territory of the nation of the diplomat therefore the diplomat could offer him asylum on the plane if need be, but I may be wrong about the latter.

Being an officially recognized diplomat (does that apply to this judge?) does not confer you ownership of any vehicle you enter.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by jonnymkramer »

gexla wrote: post #21

This seems like a much better move. If I wanted to disappear, I would much rather take my chances in rural areas where people are less likely to be watching the news rather than a city which has my picture on banners and screens everywhere. All I would need is the middle ground between remote and having a functional internet connection. Then I would just setup a cottage, create a business profile and financial accoun…

He doesn't want to have to disappear, to never see his friends or family again. He is going to a country which will hopefully allow him to live openly.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by rdouble »

gexla wrote: post #21

This seems like a much better move. If I wanted to disappear, I would much rather take my chances in rural areas where people are less likely to be watching the news rather than a city which has my picture on banners and screens everywhere. All I would need is the middle ground between remote and having a functional internet connection. Then I would just setup a cottage, create a business profile and financial accoun…

Rural communities aren't great places to hide because everyone is nosey and tend to be suspicious about recent arrivals. Huge cities are easier to disappear into anonymity. That said, Moscow and Caracas aren't exactly rural hamlets.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by quackerhacker »

alan_cx wrote: post #5
synctext wrote: post #4

Why is this trip of Snowden made into a media event? The Aeroflot flight number was public! Is this to counter a secret rendition attempt? Did we wake-up in a world with 007 stuff happening to real computer nerds, not just high-paid actors?

Publicity is, or can be, protection.

In his situation, this is a well calculated decision to keep his location public. Security through obscurity won't benefit much here.

Re: Official statement from WikiLeaks regarding Edward Snowden's exit from Hong Kong

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Post by fnordfnordfnord »

jpatokal wrote: post #11

Hmm. Either they're calling Venezuela a "democratic nation", which seems a bit of a stretch, or Snowden's actually heading somewhere other than the media is reporting. I'm hoping for option B.

Don't make judgments about Venezuela solely based on US propaganda (what the media in the con-us report).
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