The response from the accused bloke - http://blog.gont.com.ar/2013/06/lies-nuts-and-quest-for-atte...
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#22The response from the accused bloke - http://blog.gont.com.ar/2013/06/lies-nuts-and-quest-for-atte...
Yeah, that's persuasive. My summary: "Women are hysterical! And the bitch is crazy! And there was alcohol! And you bad people shouldn't jump to conclusions. And I'm not going to contribute to the drama by addressing any of the accusations directly or making any factual statements, so instead I'll contribute to the drama by clutching my pearls and calling for the fainting couch about the shocking state of modern discourse. And also, I will make vague threats of suing people."
Depressing. And ridiculous. She gave a detailed account of what happened, and has posted photos of her injuries. He didn't even bother to deny the accusations, let alone give his side of the story.
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#23ETA: I agree with mvanveen's comment below. As Georgia says, her duty is done. My confusion should be taken as my own failure to relate. Our duty is to fix these problems. I'm confused by the attitude of (maybe I'm reading this wrong) "This is a big deal, not like that silly 'feminist' stuff" when everything wrong here (other than the attack itself) is subtle institutionalized sexism. They guy's a creeper, but he was…
I am not "confused" by this attitude. Can we cut a victim some slack? I think asking her to take on that "subtle institutionalized sexism" is part of the reason she expressed qualms about publishing this in the first place. I think it took tremendous courage for the author to post this and I don't think it's fair to ask her to try and address all these issues with her tone. I think the fact we're more interested in a…
(This comment is based on reading the edited thread-starting post, but is more of an aside to the topic)
As someone involved in minority liberation campaigning, one of the biggest failings I see of my peers is not letting members of the minority group /just get on with their lives/. We are fighting for people to not have to fight, so it's important that we support the right of those marginalised to /not take a stand/, give them support when they on occasion decide to do so, and yet not expect them to do so again.
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#24Thanks for writing this. If anyone else is ever in a similar situation, please do your best to get out of the room. Even if you think your attacker might be hurt and is no longer restraining you, just get out. Get out and THEN call someone. Knock on doors, whatever... if you don't have your phone. Staying put and waiting for the attacker to leave is a BAD idea, even if you get a chance to use a phone.
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#25Quite a direct story. And it's hard to find that line where further advancements suddenly become unwelcome. I guess the advice "know your limits" is what we have.
I don't think it's hard to know the line where further advances become unwelcome. I ask. It's surprisingly easy; you should try it.
> you should try it
Is that some kind of bad-faith accusation?
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#26The response from the accused bloke - http://blog.gont.com.ar/2013/06/lies-nuts-and-quest-for-atte...
So he accuses her of mental illness on one hand and complains of slander on the other. What a charmer.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think it's hard to know the line where further advances become unwelcome. I ask. It's surprisingly easy; you should try it.
> you should try it Is that some kind of bad-faith accusation?
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth."
No, it was encouragement to try it.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth." No, it was encouragement to try it.
and yet the word 'try' implies to me some other meaning. Why not try talking straight instead of abstractly?
No, you infer some other meaning. That's all you. I meant what I said, and I said what I meant.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
and yet the word 'try' implies to me some other meaning. Why not try talking straight instead of abstractly?
No, you infer some other meaning. That's all you. I meant what I said, and I said what I meant.
Unfortunately, not everyone knows what you mean.