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Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by joeyrobert »

ngoel36 wrote: post #20
joeyrobert wrote: post #9

Full flippant source is 79 lines: https://github.com/mintchaos/flippant.js/blob/master/flippan... Call me old-fashioned but I prefer not to use these "mini JS and CSS" libraries for every little thing I do. Any competent JS/HTML developer be able to implement something like this using CSS3 transitions in an hour. Too many developers just paste libraries together these days.

If I'm paying my dev $100k/year, I'd rather spend that $48/hour doing something else.

What's he going to do when he comes across a problem where these is no library that solves it?

Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by chc »

joeyrobert wrote: post #21
ngoel36 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm paying my dev $100k/year, I'd rather spend that $48/hour doing something else.

What's he going to do when he comes across a problem where these is no library that solves it?

It seems pretty obvious that he'd write the code himself in that case because it's actually a good use of his time. Are we pretending like the only options are "Never use code that's not invented here" and "Be totally reliant on other people to write your code for you"?

Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by rhizome »

chc wrote: post #22
joeyrobert wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's he going to do when he comes across a problem where these is no library that solves it?

It seems pretty obvious that he'd write the code himself in that case because it's actually a good use of his time. Are we pretending like the only options are "Never use code that's not invented here" and "Be totally reliant on other people to write your code for you"?

If only this wasn't a topic and tendency covered extensively over the past 50 years.

Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by joseph_cooney »

thezilch wrote: post #18

Note: doesn't work in <IE10 and doesn't degrade gracefully

In IE 10 the 'flip' in the demo worked for me, but the 'flip back' didn't. It looks like it is just the way the even handler on the 'back' of the item is wired up.

Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by bronson »

orenbarzilai wrote: post #19
joeyrobert wrote: post #9

Full flippant source is 79 lines: https://github.com/mintchaos/flippant.js/blob/master/flippan... Call me old-fashioned but I prefer not to use these "mini JS and CSS" libraries for every little thing I do. Any competent JS/HTML developer be able to implement something like this using CSS3 transitions in an hour. Too many developers just paste libraries together these days.

Hour is a long time when you can use libraries to do stuff like this in a manner of minutes.

It's never minutes. Adopting someone else's library means now you're debugging their code on browsers they don't use. And, you need to figure out the inevitable idiosyncrasies like why do "card" and "modal" modes exist?

Sometimes it's worth it. For this? Seems unlikely.

Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by thezilch »

joseph_cooney wrote: post #24
thezilch wrote: post #18

Note: doesn't work in <IE10 and doesn't degrade gracefully

In IE 10 the 'flip' in the demo worked for me, but the 'flip back' didn't. It looks like it is just the way the even handler on the 'back' of the item is wired up.

I don't think it's the library; the demo uses `CustomEvent`, external to the lib, which is not supported in IE, as a constructor. I honestly didn't test any of it, but looking at the code was obvious it'd both not work and just throw errors in IE.

Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by dclowd9901 »

chc wrote: post #22
joeyrobert wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's he going to do when he comes across a problem where these is no library that solves it?

It seems pretty obvious that he'd write the code himself in that case because it's actually a good use of his time. Are we pretending like the only options are "Never use code that's not invented here" and "Be totally reliant on other people to write your code for you"?

I've noticed a creeping mindset for some people that if they don't write their own code, they can't understand what's going on. I would rather have a developer well versed in reading and understanding code than one who has to write the bible by scratch.

Re: Flippant.js - A mini JS and CSS library for flipping things over

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Post by sukoto »

joeyrobert wrote: post #17
umsm wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why spend time re-inventing the wheel? If you're looking to sharpen your skills, then go for it. I believe most people would prefer to get their product out the door as quickly as it's reasonable.

Agreed, results are important but you're taking a chance trusting any library Joe Programmer created in a couple of hours. I think it's a form of Cargo cult programming.

Where do you draw the line? No more frameworks?

It's up to the dev to go through source and understand it. Having a test suite helps.

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