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The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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Holy lucre ! 300 billion in lost revenue . That has to be wrong. Even at a tax rate of 30% (way higher than the US effective rate) that implies one trillion dollars each year gets hidden from the IRS. That will solve every budgetary crisis going.

No, spending will increase to match.

Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it makes sense to compare personal and corporate taxes? Corporations are generally far better equipped to spend money avoiding taxes, so it probably makes more sense to try to keep loopholes to a minimum and evaluate whether the effective rates are appropriate for the parties they apply to. The article you link discusses the very wealthy having taxation dominated by the lower taxes on investment income.…

Do you think it makes sense to compare personal and corporate taxes? Yes. Corporations themselves want to apply the Constitution to the corporation as if they're a "person", therefore, it makes sense to compare the corporate tax rate to the personal tax rate.

No it doesn't. Corporate tax legislation is not the same as personal tax legislation, therefore a comparison is irrelevant. Even if corporations would be treated as people, as long as the legislation is different it does not make sense to compare the two.

You may argue that tax rates are too high or low for both or that there are too many loopholes but that is a different discussion. I don't think anyone actually wants to see the same tax legislation for businesses and for people - it makes no sense what so ever.

Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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Holy lucre ! 300 billion in lost revenue . That has to be wrong. Even at a tax rate of 30% (way higher than the US effective rate) that implies one trillion dollars each year gets hidden from the IRS. That will solve every budgetary crisis going.

No, spending will increase to match.

Yeah, spent on sorting the country out.

Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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post #14

Sounds like Sweden. Some guy got a fine for saying something on his own Facebook page about his RV that was under the company. BOM. 400k to be paid.

Swedish article on the matter: http://www.aftonbladet.se/minekonomi/article16839634.ab

I have no idea if Skatteverket (IRS equivalent) were right in their decision but the guy did lose in the first court instance.

Also: If the Facebook page was public and Skatteverket were questioning the legitimacy of the 'business purchase', why shouldn't they check the page? Basing the decision on only one status update seems a bit strange though.

Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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post #11

Meanwhile the fat cats pay little, or no taxes... GE paid 7% in 2010, partly due to the poor economy. How many of us wish we could get away with only paying 7% tax? http://money.msn.com/taxes/latest.aspx?post=26d490bd-7317-4f...

Do you think it makes sense to compare personal and corporate taxes? Corporations are generally far better equipped to spend money avoiding taxes, so it probably makes more sense to try to keep loopholes to a minimum and evaluate whether the effective rates are appropriate for the parties they apply to. The article you link discusses the very wealthy having taxation dominated by the lower taxes on investment income.…

Corporations have legal personhood, so yes; it makes sense to compare them.

Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it makes sense to compare personal and corporate taxes? Corporations are generally far better equipped to spend money avoiding taxes, so it probably makes more sense to try to keep loopholes to a minimum and evaluate whether the effective rates are appropriate for the parties they apply to. The article you link discusses the very wealthy having taxation dominated by the lower taxes on investment income.…

Corporations have legal personhood, so yes; it makes sense to compare them.

I would argue against this using absurdity. I don't want corporations to have the vote, so I don't particularly want to reach for legal personhood when justifying policy.

Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think it makes sense to compare personal and corporate taxes? Yes. Corporations themselves want to apply the Constitution to the corporation as if they're a "person", therefore, it makes sense to compare the corporate tax rate to the personal tax rate.

No it doesn't. Corporate tax legislation is not the same as personal tax legislation, therefore a comparison is irrelevant. Even if corporations would be treated as people, as long as the legislation is different it does not make sense to compare the two. You may argue that tax rates are too high or low for both or that there are too many loopholes but that is a different discussion. I don't think anyone actually wan…

This is the status quo but doesn't address parent's argument. If corporations want the same rights as natural persons in one area of the law, it would be cherry picking to want to keep a privileged position in another, e.g. tax law. A good argument against parent would need to attack the premise that cherry picking privileges is bad.

Re: The IRS has upgraded its technology to track virtually everything you do online

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, spent on sorting the country out.

We've been "sorting the country out" for hundreds of years.

Things seem to be going pretty well, all things considered.
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