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Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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Ah, got bitten by this. Just added Route 53 as redundancy, should have done that a long time ago.

Are you using route53 to do an alias AND have the root domain use SSL? The setup at route53 is confounding me. I thought I'd setup a CNAME www.domain.com that points to sub.herokussl.com, and than an A record Alias that points domain.com to www.domain.com. But Amazon seems to not avow that the CNAME record is a "Record Set" that I can use for this.

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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post #21

Ah, got bitten by this. Just added Route 53 as redundancy, should have done that a long time ago.

Are you using route53 to do an alias AND have the root domain use SSL? The setup at route53 is confounding me. I thought I'd setup a CNAME www.domain.com that points to sub.herokussl.com, and than an A record Alias that points domain.com to www.domain.com. But Amazon seems to not avow that the CNAME record is a "Record Set" that I can use for this.

That's interesting. Have you tried it the other way around?

- domain.com ALIAS sub.herokussl.com - www.domain.com CNAME domain.com

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you using route53 to do an alias AND have the root domain use SSL? The setup at route53 is confounding me. I thought I'd setup a CNAME www.domain.com that points to sub.herokussl.com, and than an A record Alias that points domain.com to www.domain.com. But Amazon seems to not avow that the CNAME record is a "Record Set" that I can use for this.

That's interesting. Have you tried it the other way around? - domain.com ALIAS sub.herokussl.com - www.domain.com CNAME domain.com

Amazon doesn't like that Alias either. A friend on mine, Scott, just figured out though that you can point your Alias record at any ELB even outside your account:

https://twitter.com/scottvdp/status/341604885600534530

So I can make an Alias record to the ELB that heroku is pointing at with their SSL CNAMES.

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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Is anyone else seeing a sustained level of trashy DNS queries to their own servers? I've been seeing a sustained level to mine that's way above normal, for the last few days. I wonder if this is a broader problem than just DNSimple.

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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post #24

Is anyone else seeing a sustained level of trashy DNS queries to their own servers? I've been seeing a sustained level to mine that's way above normal, for the last few days. I wonder if this is a broader problem than just DNSimple.

That's probably someone attempting to you for a DDOS reflection. Take a look at http://openresolverproject.org/ and make sure you're not providing an open resolver to the internet

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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Bravo to the folks at DNSimple for being on top of communications during this time. It's something that they themselves brought up less then a year ago during the Zerigo DDOS (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4280515) so it'd good to see them sticking to it.

But it also seems as though the same advice proposed in that thread should have been used by their customers: Namely, utilize multiple DNS providers to mitigate risk, and choose providers with IP anycast. Heck, even setting up your own secondary DNS on a $5/mo cloud server would keep your site up (unless of course your site is the main target of the DDOS).

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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post #21

Ah, got bitten by this. Just added Route 53 as redundancy, should have done that a long time ago.

Are you using route53 to do an alias AND have the root domain use SSL? The setup at route53 is confounding me. I thought I'd setup a CNAME www.domain.com that points to sub.herokussl.com, and than an A record Alias that points domain.com to www.domain.com. But Amazon seems to not avow that the CNAME record is a "Record Set" that I can use for this.

Did you set up the S3 bucket with static file hosting redirecting to the www subdomain, before you try adding the alias in 53?

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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post #24

Is anyone else seeing a sustained level of trashy DNS queries to their own servers? I've been seeing a sustained level to mine that's way above normal, for the last few days. I wonder if this is a broader problem than just DNSimple.

That's probably someone attempting to you for a DDOS reflection. Take a look at http://openresolverproject.org/ and make sure you're not providing an open resolver to the internet

Definitely not in the list for either server.

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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post #24

Is anyone else seeing a sustained level of trashy DNS queries to their own servers? I've been seeing a sustained level to mine that's way above normal, for the last few days. I wonder if this is a broader problem than just DNSimple.

Can you give an example of what 'trashy' is?

You could be an open resolver being used for reflection. You could be running DNSSEC and providing an amplification vector. You could be getting queries for another DNS server that used to have your IP. The possibilities are endless.

Re: DNSimple target of DDoS attack

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post #29
post #24

Is anyone else seeing a sustained level of trashy DNS queries to their own servers? I've been seeing a sustained level to mine that's way above normal, for the last few days. I wonder if this is a broader problem than just DNSimple.

Can you give an example of what 'trashy' is? You could be an open resolver being used for reflection. You could be running DNSSEC and providing an amplification vector. You could be getting queries for another DNS server that used to have your IP. The possibilities are endless.

I'm running tinydns so it's definitely not DNSSEC or open resolving. The queries are for my domains, so it's not that they're questionable. The problem is that there are millions of them all from the same IP. So, it could be that it's some kind of attack, but I really don't know.

I'm planning on moving hosting over to Route53 at some point in the next few days, because the fact that I can't figure this out other than "turn off logging" tells me I probably shouldn't be running DNS servers.

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