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Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by andreastt »

bobsy wrote: post #15

I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

I'm biased since I've worked on it, but I personally find the native UI a pretty major thing.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by ubojan »

JungleGymSam wrote: post #2

Just installed it and my only comment so far is that, when maximized, there is a non-clickable gap between the top of a top and the top of the screen. This is a big usability mistake so I hope they correct it at some point. Firefox does this too and it drives me insane. Chrome is the only one (that I use) that does it right.

Firefox on Windows doesn't have this issue. You can fix this issue for classic Opera (http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=437971&#38...), but it seems that config manager for Opera Next doesn't work like old version (or maybe is completely removed?).

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by CasualSuperman »

JungleGymSam wrote: post #2

Just installed it and my only comment so far is that, when maximized, there is a non-clickable gap between the top of a top and the top of the screen. This is a big usability mistake so I hope they correct it at some point. Firefox does this too and it drives me insane. Chrome is the only one (that I use) that does it right.

It's been like this since at least Opera 10; don't count on them doing anything about it.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by kyrias »

porker wrote: post #20

If the mail client is good, then having it stand-alone is a great idea - with Thunderbird no longer updated I could do with an alternative on Windows (something that uses less RAM than keeping GMail open in a Chrome tab...)

    > with Thunderbird no longer updated
What are you talking about?

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by faaaah »

iopq wrote: post #8

It's like I'm really using Chrome! Although probably everyone saw this coming - it's just a skin of Chromium. They just took a few months to make a new mail client and put Opera icons everywhere.

It's not just a skin. It's a new interface remade from scratch. And unlike Chrome it's actually native. Must have been a massive undertaking.

The new email client seems to be the old Opera only with browsing features removed. Must have been a quick job.

So on both of these it's the opposite of what you are claiming...

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by peroo »

bobsy wrote: post #15

I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

Widgets have been a zombie product for years, with virtually no users and no development. It was actually removed from Opera about a year ago IIRC, so Chrome had nothing to do with it.

The only thing I'll miss from O12 is Dragonfly. Probably just a habit, but I found it much more intuitive and well designed.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by hobbes »

andreastt wrote: post #21
bobsy wrote: post #15

I don't get it. Maybe i misremember but I thought Opera was a feature rich browser with an email client, widgets and a bunch of other stuff. Now mail has been shunted into its own product. I don't see widgets. It really looks and feels like a skin for Chrome and nothing more which makes me wonder what the point is. If I want Chrome I will use Chrome. OK, this is a preview but the news doesn't suggest any of these old…

I'm biased since I've worked on it, but I personally find the native UI a pretty major thing.

It is a major thing but, as someone who's worked on it, how about addressing the parent's point?

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by peroo »

superdude wrote: post #7

Have they removed bookmarks?

The "Stash" feature on the speed dial page seems intended to replace it. I've long since stopped using in-browser bookmarks in favor of just keeping tabs around forever, so this seems like a good compromise.

Re: Opera 15 Preview for Windows and Mac with Chromium Engine Released

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Post by claudius »

dave1010uk wrote: post #9

Here's a list of features supported by the latest Chrome and latest Opera http://caniuse.com/#compare=chrome+28,opera+12.1 There's a couple of things that Opera might be loosing in this update, with the switch to Blink. Hopefully anything the do loose they'll be able to port over soon.

The most annoying feature in Chrome to me is its inability to select text. Yes, you read that right, it is impossible to select text in Chrome. Instead, what you get is selected elements – divs, headlines and the like, which causes horrible breakage if you just want to select (and then copy) simple letters.
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