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Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by neilmiddleton »

rmc wrote: post #21

Is this based in the EU? Or a non EU European country? EU =/= Europe. The blog post keeps mentioning Europe, but a lot of aliases are EU. This is important to figure out what law is applicable. (The graphic implies it's hosted in Ireland)

This is based in the AWS EU datacenter in Ireland. However, as far as the law is concerned, we are not yet Safe Harbor compliant, but are actively working on it.

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Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by gtaylor »

ironchief wrote: post #24
michaelrkn wrote: post #2

woot! here's to hoping we get support for regional redundancy in the US soon.

Agreed, Heroku is fantastic but I'm paranoid about keeping all my servers in one region. #CTOproblems

if this is a big enough concern, it may be best to just drop down a level of abstraction and run directly on AWS.

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by jaggederest »

fdr wrote: post #20
impostervt wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

..I would let you (heroku) do that for me, magically? ;)

Wouldn't that be nice! I work on Heroku, on the databases, which are rather thorny in that department... ...it's going to take some evolution in how applications are written to make that work not uglifically (and it'll probably be ugly at first and for a while), but it's the dream, and I think it'll come to pass over time and with work from many people.

There are literally more Heroku folks in this thread than unaffiliated commenters :P well played.

Personally I'd just be happy with a master-master postgres db or sharding, for $money, where money is some amount enough to make that happen without me worrying about it.

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by rmc »

hiddenfeatures wrote: post #3

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away? Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

Well, IANAL, but they say they are based on Ireland (in Amazon's EC2 servers), so Irish law (which is a subset of EU law) applies to their servers there.

I'm not sure what they keep meaning by "not safe harbour compliant", since the law applies all the time to all people in Ireland....

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by brazzy »

rmc wrote: post #29
hiddenfeatures wrote: post #3

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away? Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

Well, IANAL, but they say they are based on Ireland (in Amazon's EC2 servers), so Irish law (which is a subset of EU law) applies to their servers there. I'm not sure what they keep meaning by "not safe harbour compliant", since the law applies all the time to all people in Ireland....

> Irish law (which is a subset of EU law)

Shouldn't that be "superset"?

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