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Re: Expunging Google

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Post by 3825 »

lessnonymous wrote: post #16

FYI: Fastmail, while still developed in Australia, is now owned by Opera Software.

I'd like to give credit to Google where it is due. With takeout, it is very easy to get quite a bit of your information. You already could get your emails by IMAP or POP but still Google set a standard with Takeout :)

This makes it possible for someone to just pack his bags and leave. This is also the reason why I am staying.

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Post by niggler »

I've asked multiple times about adding subdomains to distinguish repos from blogs, but it appears that this is a workaround that no subdomain reporting would detect

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Post by xwei »

I use all the products you listed. And I will not attack a company just because of a product. If you just want to be popular? you did it. Kid.

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Post by dalks »

lobster_johnson wrote: post #11
ok_craig wrote: post #8

I still think this is all ridiculous. Stopping support for a product that uses a certain standard doesn't mean you're against that standard, unless you're a conspiracy theorist. You can argue that they're against certain open standards if you want, but the canceling of Reader isn't actually evidence of that. Simultaneously putting effort into G+ is also not evidence of that. It's not even symbolic of that. It is only…

The main problem with Google at the moment is the centralization of many popular services into one corporate entity. Video, search, email etc. are all now in the hands of, mostly, Google. With so few viable competitors, you get a de-factory monopoly as well as insane growth. The centralization itself is the problem. Success like this does not breed innovation. Aside from some novel extra-Internet projects like Glass…

> de-factory monopoly

Not really:

  - Video: Till Oct '12, youtube's market share peaked at ~52%. [1]

  - Email: Gmail surpassed Outlook in market share only in Oct '12. [2]

  - Search: Google Search 67.5% as of March 15, 2013. [3]
> many of these services have stagnated

And when they attempt to get out of markets so that other new companies can perform better, we get Reader like response.

> Google does not seem to care much about Internet standards

And how are you sure that FastMail and Vimeo (Alternatives suggested in the OP) are any better?

[1] http://videonuze.com/article/youtube-s-market-share-nudges-u...

[2] http://gigaom.com/2012/10/31/gmail-finally-beats-hotmail-acc...

[3] http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2255183/Google-Grabs-Mo...

Re: Expunging Google

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Post by incanus77 »

joahua wrote: post #12
zalew wrote: post #2

> Bing Maps looks like a potential alternative why not openstreetmaps?

It's pretty incomplete for parts of the world, and certain applications require accuracy (or at least completeness). The answer, of course, is to contribute, but when your core business isn't mapping that's hard to propose as a viable fix. Parts of the world in my case ~= Sydney, which has a decent number of geeks per capita to contribute. OSM is wonderful, but has a way to go before it's a viable solution for everyo…

Check out MapBox and http://ideditor.com.

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Post by [deleted] »

ok_craig wrote: post #15
lobster_johnson wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main problem with Google at the moment is the centralization of many popular services into one corporate entity. Video, search, email etc. are all now in the hands of, mostly, Google. With so few viable competitors, you get a de-factory monopoly as well as insane growth. The centralization itself is the problem. Success like this does not breed innovation. Aside from some novel extra-Internet projects like Glass…

I can get behind your first paragraph, which is basically just saying that as a consumer you like to support variety and a dynamic market by using services from multiple providers. If that's you're goal, that's a reasonable enough justification for me. However, that's not a reaction that would come as a direct result of one product cancellation (because it is a proactive, not re active perspective), and my comment is…

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Re: Expunging Google

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Post by lettergram »

I have seen many of these posts recently and I honestly do not understand. I use Google products and it definitely beats out most of the competition and doesn't interfere with anything worse than any other product out there. Sure the internet is changing, and you can either go with it (or not). Switching to many different products to complete the same tasks (many of them worse than Google products) seems kind of silly to me.
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