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Re: Moqups Premium

#21

Post by moqups »

calinet6 wrote: post #19
bobwaycott wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I use the Link feature with a button in the prior version to link to other pages. This is now consolidated into the revamped hotspot feature. I've used this on a single project so far to show off interactivity by creating a mockup, duplicating it, adding in the interactivity changes (say, a popup or other state changes), and then create a button to link off to the duplicated page with the extras. It made for a…

Cool, that is an improvement. Does this allow for incremental refinement/iteration of the mockup? My problem with duplicating pages is basically having a bunch of shared components on the same page, and then having to make a change to one of them... across the dozen different pages representing the states... so it was still an insufficient method for me.

Master Pages might help here. We're also planning to add Master Objects to make this even easier.

Re: Moqups Premium

#22

Post by mtrimpe »

moqups wrote: post #14
mattmanser wrote: post #4

Hmm, this is a really great product and I've loved using it, but 2 projects? That's so ridiculously low that 'free forever' seems a bit hollow and vacuous now. It would be better if you just came out and said it. Are you just supposed to go one humungo project now? I'm certainly not paying a monthly recurring fee for a mock up tool to play with side projects! I could see upgrading it for the collaboration aspect for…

Thanks a lot for the candid feedback! It took us a while (and more than 60,000 free users!) to better understand our business metrics and see what our opportunities are until we've made these not always easy decisions. We also had a look at what our competing products are offering and many times it's nothing more than a free, very limited trial. Let me try to shed some more light about the free version: - We've tried…

You could also consider having a limit of 1 or 2 private projects and make all the others public.

If you give public mockups a publicly accessible page and create a base representation that is indexable by Google, it might be an interesting source of additional incoming traffic (and leaves you open to become something like SpeakerDeck for Mockups.)

Re: Moqups Premium

#23

Post by mattmanser »

cristianpascu wrote: post #12
calinet6 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I love nice fountain pens more than anyone, but you can get a good pencil and paper pad for a couple bucks.

That's true. I wanted this specific pen for its quality. My point actually was that it's pretty much non-sense to complain about a free tool. You probably did the right thing, as a developer, you built your own system.

Why is it nonsense? They posted it here, do they not want feedback? This isn't a free advertising site you know. Once you say something like free, you can't take it back.

In case you weren't aware it's $10 per month. Per month. Say your $20 pen lasts 5 years. Add maybe another $30 in refills. That's $50. In the same time moqups would cost you $500.

And also if you stopped paying they might take away everything you'd 'written'.

I certainly think it's worth the money for companies. Just not for individuals.

Re: Moqups Premium

#24

Post by moqups »

mattmanser wrote: post #23
cristianpascu wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true. I wanted this specific pen for its quality. My point actually was that it's pretty much non-sense to complain about a free tool. You probably did the right thing, as a developer, you built your own system.

Why is it nonsense? They posted it here, do they not want feedback? This isn't a free advertising site you know. Once you say something like free, you can't take it back. In case you weren't aware it's $10 per month. Per month. Say your $20 pen lasts 5 years. Add maybe another $30 in refills. That's $50. In the same time moqups would cost you $500. And also if you stopped paying they might take away everything you'd…

Hi Matt, don't worry - we really appreciate and reflect upon all kinds of feedback, specially the most honest ones. We may disagree on various topics, but that's what makes a good debate!

Re: Moqups Premium

#25

Post by moqups »

mtrimpe wrote: post #22
moqups wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks a lot for the candid feedback! It took us a while (and more than 60,000 free users!) to better understand our business metrics and see what our opportunities are until we've made these not always easy decisions. We also had a look at what our competing products are offering and many times it's nothing more than a free, very limited trial. Let me try to shed some more light about the free version: - We've tried…

You could also consider having a limit of 1 or 2 private projects and make all the others public. If you give public mockups a publicly accessible page and create a base representation that is indexable by Google, it might be an interesting source of additional incoming traffic (and leaves you open to become something like SpeakerDeck for Mockups.)

We decided to avoid publishing an indexable listing of public projects so we can protect the privacy of our users at least to the extent where they don't publish the unique, indecipherable link themselves ("Available to anyone who knows the link"). We think it's the most ethical approach for handling this situation.

Re: Moqups Premium

#26

Post by bobwaycott »

calinet6 wrote: post #19
bobwaycott wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I use the Link feature with a button in the prior version to link to other pages. This is now consolidated into the revamped hotspot feature. I've used this on a single project so far to show off interactivity by creating a mockup, duplicating it, adding in the interactivity changes (say, a popup or other state changes), and then create a button to link off to the duplicated page with the extras. It made for a…

Cool, that is an improvement. Does this allow for incremental refinement/iteration of the mockup? My problem with duplicating pages is basically having a bunch of shared components on the same page, and then having to make a change to one of them... across the dozen different pages representing the states... so it was still an insufficient method for me.

Yeah, there's not exactly a perfect way of getting it just right, as far as I see it. I tended in my projects to use the tooltip object to highlight/explain certain interactive pieces. But I don't use tools like this to actually dig into interaction specifics--I use it to communicate the general direction of an idea only.

Re: Moqups Premium

#27

Post by cristianpascu »

mattmanser wrote: post #23
cristianpascu wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true. I wanted this specific pen for its quality. My point actually was that it's pretty much non-sense to complain about a free tool. You probably did the right thing, as a developer, you built your own system.

Why is it nonsense? They posted it here, do they not want feedback? This isn't a free advertising site you know. Once you say something like free, you can't take it back. In case you weren't aware it's $10 per month. Per month. Say your $20 pen lasts 5 years. Add maybe another $30 in refills. That's $50. In the same time moqups would cost you $500. And also if you stopped paying they might take away everything you'd…

Matt, I don't think feedback is non-sense. Never! What I find difficult to understand is why one would expect something to be free. And more, negotiate on that 'free product'. It's really not about moqups here, but about products in general.

And I think that it's not about companies vs. individuals. It doesn't matter if you're a company or not. What it matters is that the products does a job for you and you benefit from it somehow. There is a profit you gain from using the product. You should accept the idea of making a little investment in order to get that profit. You don't get free coffee at Starbucks, or free chips or McDonalds or free breakfast at a gas station, just like that. You pay for everything in the real world.

Software should be cheap, but not free. My opinionated 2 cents. :)

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