The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source • Hacker News Board

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by ultimoo » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:17 AM UTC

While I see the point the OP is trying to make, I feel the article is not written in a neutral way, with whatever little knowledge of node.js I have.

Isn't Node.js a platform? And JavaScript the language? I looked it up and JavaScript has been around since 1995 (which makes it contemporary to Ruby and Python).

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by jacques_chester » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:19 AM UTC

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #19

jacques_chester wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paging Newton and Leibniz. Newton and Leibniz to the HN thread, please.

I don't understand this reference. I have to say, I agreed. I don't see a lot here that is unique to node.js. If anything it's the culmination of timing that reveals the current state of advancement and collaboration in today's OSS/software world. But I think Go or Rust are emerging examples of a similar phenom.

> I don't understand this reference.

Newton and Leibniz independently invented calculus.

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by VeejayRampay » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:23 AM UTC

Isn't Node also coming 10 years late to the party? It's always easier to join the race at a later time when all you have to do is copy the efforts of others and catch up. Especially since Node has quite a few users and a lot of early days hype to sail on. That being said, good on them and good on the variety it offers people.

I just wouldn't say it's "changing the face of open source" though...

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by RogerDodger_n » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:31 AM UTC

Strange that in a blog comparing package managers there's no mention of CPAN, which "currently has 120,446 Perl modules in 27,328 distributions, written by 10,567 authors" [0].

It's a lively community, sure. But "changing the face of open-source" is a stretch -- "quietly" even more so.

[0]: http://www.cpan.org/

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by htilford » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:43 AM UTC

ultimoo wrote: post #21

While I see the point the OP is trying to make, I feel the article is not written in a neutral way, with whatever little knowledge of node.js I have. Isn't Node.js a platform? And JavaScript the language? I looked it up and JavaScript has been around since 1995 (which makes it contemporary to Ruby and Python).

It's not about language, it's about the module ecosystem. Less Node.js vs Ruby vs Python more npm vs gem vs pip

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by MetaCosm » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:44 AM UTC

shadowmint wrote: post #15

Obviously if Node doesnt come 'batteries included' then you have to re-invent-from-scratch all the tools like package management, dependency management, MVC libraries, etc. That doesn't mean the community is amazing and wants to contribute! ...it means, that those features didn't exist, and someone had to do them (and yes, it's really great that they're all coming out open source, but it's not revolutionary) Any lang…

I honestly think it might be (changing the face of open source), I am not a part of the node.js community, but I do look at the way NPM works with a bit of jealousy.

Born at the right time, defaulting to the "right" (according to me) license, with the right mix of tools that make it easy to publish and share -- and bluntly I hope other communities (like Erlang, one close to my heart) follow suit.

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by davedx » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:46 AM UTC

I'm sorry, but it's not a good thing when there are multiple packages to do a binary search.

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by pistacchioso » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:47 AM UTC

Irrelevant but I must say it: Node.js forced async IO is its strength but programming it is a pain in the butt.

Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:49 AM UTC

htilford wrote: post #25

ultimoo wrote: post #21

While I see the point the OP is trying to make, I feel the article is not written in a neutral way, with whatever little knowledge of node.js I have. Isn't Node.js a platform? And JavaScript the language? I looked it up and JavaScript has been around since 1995 (which makes it contemporary to Ruby and Python).

It's not about language, it's about the module ecosystem. Less Node.js vs Ruby vs Python more npm vs gem vs pip

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Re: The Node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

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Post by MetaCosm » Tue, Apr 16, 2013, 5:49 AM UTC

htilford wrote: post #25

ultimoo wrote: post #21

While I see the point the OP is trying to make, I feel the article is not written in a neutral way, with whatever little knowledge of node.js I have. Isn't Node.js a platform? And JavaScript the language? I looked it up and JavaScript has been around since 1995 (which makes it contemporary to Ruby and Python).

It's not about language, it's about the module ecosystem. Less Node.js vs Ruby vs Python more npm vs gem vs pip

Exactly. Also the ease into the ecosystem.