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Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by bdcravens »

eliben wrote: post #14

There used to be a time where people created programming tutorials just for the heck of it: to learn the language better themselves, to do something good, to get some rep, to make a name for themselves. I wrote quite a few myself - enjoyed every minute of it - both the process of writing (writing stuff down forces you to be honest about knowing it well) and the feedback afterwards. Without asking for $10K on Kickstar…

Creating a good content can be pricey. Even if one wants to be altruistic, perhaps doing something gratis means you really can't dedicate as much time as you'd like. To that end, Udemy is a great solution for monetizing great teaching content.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by bpatrianakos »

eliben wrote: post #14

There used to be a time where people created programming tutorials just for the heck of it: to learn the language better themselves, to do something good, to get some rep, to make a name for themselves. I wrote quite a few myself - enjoyed every minute of it - both the process of writing (writing stuff down forces you to be honest about knowing it well) and the feedback afterwards. Without asking for $10K on Kickstar…

I don't think Kickstarter will harm open source. I think opporunists might. But do you really think people like us would fund something like this? I'm honestly asking the question. I don't think they would. As a programmer I know better than to fund something like this. There's no shortage of Ruby tutorials out there for free and a ton that cost money too. All great resources. I see this and I think to myself, "nice, someone decided to capitalize on the hipness of Ruby by duplicating what's out there for free with a twist - vaguely familiar games as lessons".

I have faith that this won't be funded.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by bdcravens »

eliben wrote: post #14

There used to be a time where people created programming tutorials just for the heck of it: to learn the language better themselves, to do something good, to get some rep, to make a name for themselves. I wrote quite a few myself - enjoyed every minute of it - both the process of writing (writing stuff down forces you to be honest about knowing it well) and the feedback afterwards. Without asking for $10K on Kickstar…

It won't harm open source. Perhaps it'll harm future crowdfunding endeavors, as the trust level will be low. However, I think open source software that was funded on Kickstarter, but never delivered (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1397300529/railsapp) is far more of a threat than courseware.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

bpatrianakos wrote: post #22
eliben wrote: post #14

There used to be a time where people created programming tutorials just for the heck of it: to learn the language better themselves, to do something good, to get some rep, to make a name for themselves. I wrote quite a few myself - enjoyed every minute of it - both the process of writing (writing stuff down forces you to be honest about knowing it well) and the feedback afterwards. Without asking for $10K on Kickstar…

I don't think Kickstarter will harm open source. I think opporunists might. But do you really think people like us would fund something like this? I'm honestly asking the question. I don't think they would. As a programmer I know better than to fund something like this. There's no shortage of Ruby tutorials out there for free and a ton that cost money too. All great resources. I see this and I think to myself, "nice,…

The end result is going to be free, isn't it? He's just asking for money so he can devote more of his time to it.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by bri3d »

kawsper wrote: post #17
andreiursan wrote: post #3

Around minute 1:01, in the kickstarter video, he says that ruby is used by facebook o_O. I don't think that it is, is it?

They do. See the comment on this answer on SO: http://stackoverflow.com/a/553455

That guy isn't a Ruby developer -at- Facebook; he writes Facebook Platform apps in Ruby. With that being said I'm sure there's something in Ruby somewhere at Facebook - in an organization that size, there's room for a lot of best tools for the job.

Plus, Ruby is big in the CM/operations/deployment world given the popularity of both Puppet and Chef.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by eliben »

ilink wrote: post #18
eliben wrote: post #14

There used to be a time where people created programming tutorials just for the heck of it: to learn the language better themselves, to do something good, to get some rep, to make a name for themselves. I wrote quite a few myself - enjoyed every minute of it - both the process of writing (writing stuff down forces you to be honest about knowing it well) and the feedback afterwards. Without asking for $10K on Kickstar…

That's a litte hyperbolic, this is the first I have seen of something like that on Kickstarter.

Not at all. I withheld this reaction N times before finally posting it. The project mentioned in an earlier comment (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1397300529/railsapp) is another example. I'm talking about programming projects in general (tutorials, new apps, libraries, toolchains) and not specifically how-to tutorials. Why participate in open-source if you can try to get real money for it on Kickstarter?

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by pc86 »

bdcravens wrote: post #16

This violates Kickstarter rules. See the $50 pledge: The price will jump to $100 after the Kickstarter, so sign up now!" Kickstarter project guidelines: Kickstarter cannot be used to fund e-commerce, business, and social networking websites or apps. ( http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines#prohibited ) No matter if you throw the "education" label on it, it's still a paid membership site. A business website. Even…

We'll find out. I submitted a note to Kickstarter informing of the project and that it may be a violation of their rules. We'll see if they take it down.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by pc86 »

jamesgeck0 wrote: post #24
bpatrianakos wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think Kickstarter will harm open source. I think opporunists might. But do you really think people like us would fund something like this? I'm honestly asking the question. I don't think they would. As a programmer I know better than to fund something like this. There's no shortage of Ruby tutorials out there for free and a ton that cost money too. All great resources. I see this and I think to myself, "nice,…

The end result is going to be free, isn't it? He's just asking for money so he can devote more of his time to it.

The end result will be $100.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by espadrine »

pc86 wrote: post #28
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The end result is going to be free, isn't it? He's just asking for money so he can devote more of his time to it.

The end result will be $100.

What makes you say that? The description seems pretty specific about the end result being open-source and distributed as a gem.

EDIT: indeed, the $50-backers description alerts of a rise to $100 after the kickstarter. That has to be a huge mistake on their part.

EDIT 2: I just received information from Tom Black that the software environment, along with the lessons, challenges, projects, will be free and open-source. What will be paid are subsequent, related screencasts and online classes.

Re: Learn Ruby

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Post by tomku »

bpatrianakos wrote: post #22
eliben wrote: post #14

There used to be a time where people created programming tutorials just for the heck of it: to learn the language better themselves, to do something good, to get some rep, to make a name for themselves. I wrote quite a few myself - enjoyed every minute of it - both the process of writing (writing stuff down forces you to be honest about knowing it well) and the feedback afterwards. Without asking for $10K on Kickstar…

I don't think Kickstarter will harm open source. I think opporunists might. But do you really think people like us would fund something like this? I'm honestly asking the question. I don't think they would. As a programmer I know better than to fund something like this. There's no shortage of Ruby tutorials out there for free and a ton that cost money too. All great resources. I see this and I think to myself, "nice,…

As a programmer, I wouldn't fund it. However, it might appeal to people who want to become programmers and don't know about the alternatives.
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