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Re: Must-Reads When Recruiting Programmers

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Post by flyinRyan » Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 7:49 AM UTC

blindhippo wrote: post #6

Man I wish more employers in my local area (Calgary, Alberta) would read this article: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000050.html Every place I interview at thinks: - developers want to work in fishbowls ("fast paced environment") - thinks old/used furniture from the 80's is suitable for developers - assumes we want stock options as compensation (in a "start-up" hell no, give me actual stock or a real…

I would just keep applying with Oil and Gas until I got in. You only have so many billable years, don't throw them away getting under-compensated.

Re: Must-Reads When Recruiting Programmers

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Post by flyinRyan » Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 7:51 AM UTC

rhc2104 wrote: post #7

blindhippo wrote: post #6

Man I wish more employers in my local area (Calgary, Alberta) would read this article: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000050.html Every place I interview at thinks: - developers want to work in fishbowls ("fast paced environment") - thinks old/used furniture from the 80's is suitable for developers - assumes we want stock options as compensation (in a "start-up" hell no, give me actual stock or a real…

I don't know about how Canadian taxes work, but at least in the US, you have to pay taxes on stock you receive, even if they are illiquid (but with stock options, taxation does not occur until you exercise).

I suspect every country taxes stock, certainly every country I'm aware of. The thing that's different in the US is you only get taxed capital gains (much lower). In the other countries I'm familiar with (Canada isn't one of them) stock is just income and gets taxed via the normal income tax mechanisms.

Re: Must-Reads When Recruiting Programmers

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Post by blindhippo » Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 4:19 PM UTC

neksus wrote: post #20

blindhippo wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is 4 years your sum total? If so, 70k is fantastic in Calgary for that experience. Plus, depending on your needs/wants, 70k (without huge consumer debt) is enough to live quite nicely in Calgary right now. If you managed to grab a job working directly for an Oil & Gas dept doing mobile (they exist), you'd be able to command 90k+. Work would likely be boring though - but you'd get impressive bonuses, benefits and othe…

4 years of iOS. I've been using php/MySQL and all the other jazz for about a decade. I'd also say I've got solid design skills.

You're basically gold to any agency here then :)

Development + Design is like finding a unicorn. You should be aiming much higher then 70k.

Re: Must-Reads When Recruiting Programmers

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Post by neksus » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 2:51 AM UTC

blindhippo wrote: post #23

neksus wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4 years of iOS. I've been using php/MySQL and all the other jazz for about a decade. I'd also say I've got solid design skills.

You're basically gold to any agency here then :) Development + Design is like finding a unicorn. You should be aiming much higher then 70k.

I'm finding a hard time finding people who even care - they either want to hire a developer or hire a designer. I feel like I'd need to jump in with a startup or into a company with few employees to get the commendation.