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Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize that Google pays Firefox $300M a year, making them at least somewhat aligned to the business of Google?

Yes, and I suspect that Firefox is, at least, not going to work against the way it makes its money (ads) but the alternative browsers have bigger conflicts of interest.

Opera?

Plus with their switch to Blink on the horizon, even the old complaints about rendering compatibility are soon to be moot.

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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Please, when you make a new project, please, please don't use a pre-existing English word. Perl? Great name. Searchable. You won't be contaminated and neither will you contaminate others. Tumblr? Same thing.

Python? Well, has a lot of groundswell so now tech 'owns' the name, but you contaminate other people's search.

Rust? (or a million other projects without python's heft) The reverse issue.

Blink also has the problem of already being a word used occasionally in web design (bad or otherwise).

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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post #14

Duh! Chrome, Youtube, Maps, Android and virtually everything serve Google's $$$$ making efforts. Same applies to Microsoft and other large corps, no matter how much they spin. So I use Firefox and will use for as long as they are independent.

You do realize that Google pays Firefox $300M a year, making them at least somewhat aligned to the business of Google?

I had to look that up just to verify it was that much. 300M is a boatload of money per year.

http://allthingsd.com/20111222/google-will-pay-mozilla-almos...

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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post #22

Please, when you make a new project, please, please don't use a pre-existing English word. Perl? Great name. Searchable. You won't be contaminated and neither will you contaminate others. Tumblr? Same thing. Python? Well, has a lot of groundswell so now tech 'owns' the name, but you contaminate other people's search. Rust? (or a million other projects without python's heft) The reverse issue. Blink also has the probl…

At least until a quick and convenient context setting syntax enters the mainstream search syntax.

Id love the ability to search "Json parsers [python]" or "music packages [django[python[programming]]]"

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and I suspect that Firefox is, at least, not going to work against the way it makes its money (ads) but the alternative browsers have bigger conflicts of interest.

Opera? Plus with their switch to Blink on the horizon, even the old complaints about rendering compatibility are soon to be moot.

> Duh! Chrome, Youtube, Maps, Android and virtually everything serve Google's $$$$ making efforts.

Following the above logic wouldn't Opera not fit the bill either, considering it serves only to make money for Opera?

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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" the decision to fork WebKit was entirely driven by the engineering teams and solely based on the fact that the engineers felt constrained by the technical complexity of working within the WebKit ecosystem." Is this code for "They wouldn't take our changes so we said, 'Fork it!' and made our own." ?

Nope. If Google wanted to push things through it would certainly be possible as the single largest contributor, but that's not a productive way for anyone to participate. Instead, it's just a matter of simple project divergence. Apple landed the WebKit2 layer a few years ago, which was largely incompatible with the Chrome architecture that predated it by several years. Some minor efforts were made to unify parts, but WebKit2 continued to move in a direction that was increasingly incompatible with the existing Chrome architecture. Rather than burden everyone by continuing to maintain a codebase between these increasingly divergent approaches, it made sense to split.

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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This is just a personal opinion, but for a browser I'd always support and use a not-for-profit one. No matter how fast, or perceptibly fast, an offering from a business entity is. Here is why: 1. Tomorrow you, the billion dollar enterprise, will force real identity even more vehemently. 2. I certainly don't want to see a constant hum of ads. 3. I don't want to turn my computer into a wide-mouth bucket for chrome apps…

Current popular browsers are: * Firefox * Chrome / Chromium * Internet Explorer * Safari * Opera All of them are produced with the aim of benefiting their parent corporations in some way -- for example, Mozilla Corp rents the default search engine setting to Google for hundreds of millions per year. I currently use Firefox and Chromium as my primary browsers, because they are the only popular browsers that are open-s…

"All of them are produced with the aim of benefiting their parent corporations in some way -- for example, Mozilla Corp rents the default search engine setting to Google for hundreds of millions per year."

You've crafted a sentence that will mislead people.

Mozilla did not, and does not, make Firefox in order to generate search revenue. Mozilla makes Firefox to directly advance Mozilla's non-profit, public benefit mission to improve the Web.

Firefox is not produced with the aim of generating revenue. It never has been and it never will be.

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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_IT BEGINS_ We're switching out the cluster that was IE6 for Google Chrome. Mozilla, save us; you're our only hope. Opera is going to contribute to Blink as well, so I guess there's that.

On the contrary, this saves us from WebKit being the new Trident from IE6.

Re: Google Forks WebKit And Launches Blink, A New Rendering Engine

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post #14

Duh! Chrome, Youtube, Maps, Android and virtually everything serve Google's $$$$ making efforts. Same applies to Microsoft and other large corps, no matter how much they spin. So I use Firefox and will use for as long as they are independent.

You do realize that Google pays Firefox $300M a year, making them at least somewhat aligned to the business of Google?

That is like saying Brendan Eich is beholden to Mozilla because they currently pay him. Don't forget the fact that he could get a job in less than a minute's worth of effort at pretty much any tech company in the world. Mozilla's traffic has a value that is independent of Google.
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