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Re: The Impact of Dropping the SAT

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Post by tokenadult » Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 1:24 PM UTC

andylei wrote: post #17

Dilpil wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we could put together some sort of test...

should probably standardize that test, so that students across the country could be judged based on the same benchmarks :)

Is a student who took a very different set of courses in high school exactly as strong a candidate for college admission as some other student with the same test who took different courses? How about if one student sleeps on a sheet of cardboard under a bridge (working by day to support his family), while another lives in a mansion and has test-prep tutors come to coach him throughout his free time?

Re: The Impact of Dropping the SAT

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Post by tokenadult » Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 1:26 PM UTC

jerf wrote: post #19

I'd have felt a lot better about the article if it wasn't for the word "model" sprinkled liberally through the piece. It sounded an awful lot to me like they could have just looked for the evidence of the effect they are claiming, and I find myself wondering if they used a model because it was easier, or if they did in fact look and failed to come up with the morally-correct evidence. It's easy; go look at those coll…

It's easy; go look at those colleges that didn't consider the test

The submitted article says there is exactly one such college, which I think from other sources I have read is correct. And the figures for that college are already posted to this thread.

Re: The Impact of Dropping the SAT

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Post by khafra » Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 3:06 PM UTC

defen wrote: post #6

I love how diversi-crats treat college education as a fungible commodity - if we can just get more minorities into the Ivy League, we'll magically solve all of their problems. Putting someone into an academic environment which is too far beyond his capabilities is a bad idea.

Actually, a 1999 study showed that highly selective colleges made a bigger difference in the future income of students from low-income backgrounds than it did to students from high-income backgrounds. Putting dumb people in MIT isn't a good idea, but putting lower class people in is. http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/003355302320...