As a father and uncle who is cultivating an understanding of computers into three little girls I want to say that this is great. One of them likes embedded applications, other likes web, and the other likes video games. And I'm excited that the oldest one can code simple mods for Minecraft and get to show off in class (her fellow students play Minecraft).
$10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
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Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#22In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech" I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all femal…
It's hard to understand how you could think that Adria Richards is representative of all "women in tech". It's also hard to understand why you take Adria's incident as such a severe personal affront to yourself that you not only seem to want PyLadies to bite the dust, but "a part of [you] would be quite happy if [you] never saw a female in tech again." Even a sane and moderate person can see in this post a suggestion…
He didn't say it was a nice part of him. He was just being honest.
Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#23In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech" I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all femal…
I understand being conflicted about this, but it's a little bit selfish to side-track a conversation about something this unreservedly positive. Just remember not to paint too big a brush, and let things "donglegate" die rather than dictate the conversation going forward.
Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#24How much of that's going to that "lady", who's been offended by eavesdropped private conversation and violating conference rules?
$0, this has nothing to do with that.
Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#25I would donate my big dongle.
Do you even think that's funny? Even putting whether or not it offends people aside, it isn't even funny. Just stupid.
Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#26In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech" I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all femal…
> A part of me doesn't even want to think about it again for some time until the dust has completely settled.
How long do you think that will be (for you)? I agree with your sentiment, and I'm now more skeptical of everyone's motives since PyCon. Are we talking weeks? months? before balance is restored?
Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#27In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech" I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all femal…
In an ideal world people would not even make a connection between the two.
Pyladies is an educational group. Don't assume that because it is a group for women it is any more 'feminist' than any other group.
Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard to understand how you could think that Adria Richards is representative of all "women in tech". It's also hard to understand why you take Adria's incident as such a severe personal affront to yourself that you not only seem to want PyLadies to bite the dust, but "a part of [you] would be quite happy if [you] never saw a female in tech again." Even a sane and moderate person can see in this post a suggestion…
He didn't say it was a nice part of him. He was just being honest.
That is not an acceptable excuse for publicly saying that you wish women would not be in tech. It definitely doesn't make it any more rational to want to punish all women because you feel personally offended about the stupid actions of one person, which did not actually affect you in any way.
If this pattern of feeling irrational resentments and using them to justify inflammatory public behavior is "just being honest" then Adria Richards was also "just being honest".
Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#29So, if I was at a shop with a large recruiting budget trying hard to land new talent, and I was also specifically interested in fostering an environment the encouraged and promoted women in our industry.. I'd seriously consider writing a check for 10k and doubling the contribution today. Any takers?
As a rational male programmer, I'd be quite impressed by such a move. Beyond the important social message that such an act fosters, it's just smart . Good companies want to hire good people. Great female programmers are in (relatively to male) low demand and a smart company would avail themselves of that.
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Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013
#30In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech" I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all femal…
I think you're taking it too personally. Step back and look at the big picture. PyCon was by all accounts a success and this incident a minor distraction that's gotten way too much attention and blown out of proportion.