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Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Post by isaacwaller » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:27 AM UTC

oulipian wrote: post #11

Geee wrote: post #6

Sometimes skeuomorphism is useful, when used right. For example, Microsoft's Fresh Paint app for Windows 8. Extreme skeuomorphism which actually combines well within the flat W8 interface, screenshot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Freshpain...

You have got to be kidding. That looks terrible and wastes half the space on the screen. It's not even very good skeuomorphism, the drop shadows aren't in a consistent direction, and the layering of the brushes and canvas doesn't make sense.

The menu slides up when you're not using it.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Post by vacri » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:37 AM UTC

I've always thought that iOS elements looked like Playmobile gear, and clashed horribly with Ive's sleek hardware design. It will be interesting to see the changes Ive will make, and how much better they'll mesh with his hardware.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Post by oulipian » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:40 AM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #16

oulipian wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have got to be kidding. That looks terrible and wastes half the space on the screen. It's not even very good skeuomorphism, the drop shadows aren't in a consistent direction, and the layering of the brushes and canvas doesn't make sense.

Drop shadows is not what skeumorphism is about.

Oh I agree, but you might as well get them right if that's the effect you're going for.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Post by rayiner » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:41 AM UTC

VeejayRampay wrote: post #3

Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Possibly because they'll do it right and not have the amorphous mess that is Windows 8?

There's sparks of brilliance in Metro, but it's too goddamn flat. It's not obvious what parts of the UI can be clicked and manipulated.

Apple is also hailed as genius for "inventing the tablet" even though Microsoft tried to make tablets happen for a decade before the iPad. It's just an example of execution having more impact than conceptualization.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Post by clauretano » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:45 AM UTC

sigzero wrote: post #17

thomaslutz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not Windows8-flat, rather non-skeuomorphic.

Yes, this. Look at the new podcast app that was just updated.

the old one, for anyone who never saw it, was made to look like a reel-to-reel magnetic tape player.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Post by ebbv » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:51 AM UTC

VeejayRampay wrote: post #3

Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Right because of all the tech companies in the world, Microsoft is the one with the history of unique innovation that is forgotten and ignored.

I'm not saying Apple is either but come on, dude.

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Post by ebbv » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:53 AM UTC

anonfunction wrote: post #15

So much for the "consistent UI" apple fans are always touting as a win over android. Now it seems we will have some apps glossy, some flat, some skeuo, etc... This isn't new. OSX has many different apps that still reflect trends and practices of the era in which they were made.

Consistent UI on iOS isn't about all apps looking identical, they don't and never have.

It's about functionality being consistent, and for the most part it is. Certainly more so than Android. Whether that's something you care about or not is up to you.

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Post by paul_f » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 12:58 AM UTC

I never considered flat and skeuomorphic to be opposite ends of the same design continuum. Those aren't the only options. I'd like to think the Apple design team is going to wow us with something new. Something better.

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Post by cmelbye » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 1:00 AM UTC

skc wrote: post #7

meerita wrote: post #5

I never pay attention to those rumors. And for sure they will never copy MS or Google. They will craft something their own.

You mean like Notification Centre?

Notification center isn't designed similarly to Android's equivalent... Like, at all. They function similarly, but if you're referring to Apple copying functionality then you've missed the whole point of this discussion.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Post by esusatyo » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 1:03 AM UTC

cmelbye wrote: post #29

skc wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like Notification Centre?

Notification center isn't designed similarly to Android's equivalent... Like, at all. They function similarly, but if you're referring to Apple copying functionality then you've missed the whole point of this discussion.

I still hate the x buttons on their notification centre.