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How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

#21
post #16

Paying Netflix funds the companies that have made this bullshit DRM a reality. Just torrent your media and play it in VLC. Works better, without WINE, and without subsidizing these dicks.

You're still giving your eyes and attention to "these dicks".

I suggest trying to find and support media that is offered without DRM in the first place, if that is what you consider important.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

#22
post #16

Paying Netflix funds the companies that have made this bullshit DRM a reality. Just torrent your media and play it in VLC. Works better, without WINE, and without subsidizing these dicks.

You're still giving your eyes and attention to "these dicks". I suggest trying to find and support media that is offered without DRM in the first place, if that is what you consider important.

DVDs remain a video media which can be considered DRM free (their DRM is nominal and trivially removable). Most other video distribution channels remain seriously afflicted by DRM. Video is one of the few industries where DRM is still very dominant. Other industries such as e-books and gaming move away from DRM, though slowly. Or at least you can find decent DRM free channels for them. Music industry already dumped DRM for good.

So if you care, buy DVDs and ignore DRM afflicted distribution channels.

The problem with Netflix is not just in them using DRM, but in them actively proliferating it, up to pushing to build it into HTML standard. While the general trend goes in the right direction, Netflix pushes into the wrong one.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

#23
post #16

Paying Netflix funds the companies that have made this bullshit DRM a reality. Just torrent your media and play it in VLC. Works better, without WINE, and without subsidizing these dicks.

If you don't like the terms they're offering, just don't consume the content they create.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

#24
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're still giving your eyes and attention to "these dicks". I suggest trying to find and support media that is offered without DRM in the first place, if that is what you consider important.

DVDs remain a video media which can be considered DRM free (their DRM is nominal and trivially removable). Most other video distribution channels remain seriously afflicted by DRM. Video is one of the few industries where DRM is still very dominant. Other industries such as e-books and gaming move away from DRM, though slowly. Or at least you can find decent DRM free channels for them. Music industry already dumped D…

The DRM on DVDs, while obviously long ago cracked wide open, still carries the legal implications of DRM.

> Music industry already dumped DRM for good.

This is the part that really gets to me. The music industry is still largely dominated by the sort of companies that also dominate video, and music files are vastly easier to trade around due to their siz, and yet DRM in music is nearly completely nonexistent these days. The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that these same companies just think they can continue to get away with it for video.

Really the proper course of action is to give them reason to reconsider that.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

#25
post #13

I've seen this same "solution" posted 3 times now to HN (forgive me not back-linking). Every one relies on WINE in some form, and every single one is choppy for me despite a lot of customization. I'm not sure where to go with it.

If you look at his website (http://www.compholio.com/wine-compholio/) apparently he is using some of his own custom Wine patches to resolve choppiness.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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post #24
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DVDs remain a video media which can be considered DRM free (their DRM is nominal and trivially removable). Most other video distribution channels remain seriously afflicted by DRM. Video is one of the few industries where DRM is still very dominant. Other industries such as e-books and gaming move away from DRM, though slowly. Or at least you can find decent DRM free channels for them. Music industry already dumped D…

The DRM on DVDs, while obviously long ago cracked wide open, still carries the legal implications of DRM. > Music industry already dumped DRM for good. This is the part that really gets to me. The music industry is still largely dominated by the sort of companies that also dominate video, and music files are vastly easier to trade around due to their siz, and yet DRM in music is nearly completely nonexistent these da…

With music, they had a limited choices: 1) Keep DRM and deal with Apple but lose the non-Apple market; 2) Deal with a bunch of other DRM formats that don't work with iPods; or 3) dump DRM and be able to sell to everyone (with a side strategy of suing downloaders). For video, there is no dominate hardware manufacture that has a proprietary DRM format -- almost everyone that sells uses a software player of their own design. Ebooks are the one case I don't understand though.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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post #24
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DVDs remain a video media which can be considered DRM free (their DRM is nominal and trivially removable). Most other video distribution channels remain seriously afflicted by DRM. Video is one of the few industries where DRM is still very dominant. Other industries such as e-books and gaming move away from DRM, though slowly. Or at least you can find decent DRM free channels for them. Music industry already dumped D…

The DRM on DVDs, while obviously long ago cracked wide open, still carries the legal implications of DRM. > Music industry already dumped DRM for good. This is the part that really gets to me. The music industry is still largely dominated by the sort of companies that also dominate video, and music files are vastly easier to trade around due to their siz, and yet DRM in music is nearly completely nonexistent these da…

I think it's mostly about practical implications, rather than legal ones. Legal battle is about those who push some junk in the law vs those who attempt to repeal DMCA/1201 and etc (and that can take quite a long time to achieve). But practical battle goes about simply adding more DRM everywhere vs getting rid of it.

Companies of the RIAA/MPAA style don't operate with common sense and pure logic. Practice demonstrated it multiple times. They are driven by random impulses like paranoia, lust for control and so on. So don't expect them to give you a logical answer why they don't use DRM in music, but use it in video.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

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post #26
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The DRM on DVDs, while obviously long ago cracked wide open, still carries the legal implications of DRM. > Music industry already dumped DRM for good. This is the part that really gets to me. The music industry is still largely dominated by the sort of companies that also dominate video, and music files are vastly easier to trade around due to their siz, and yet DRM in music is nearly completely nonexistent these da…

With music, they had a limited choices: 1) Keep DRM and deal with Apple but lose the non-Apple market; 2) Deal with a bunch of other DRM formats that don't work with iPods; or 3) dump DRM and be able to sell to everyone (with a side strategy of suing downloaders). For video, there is no dominate hardware manufacture that has a proprietary DRM format -- almost everyone that sells uses a software player of their own de…

It takes one player to break the trend and to demonstrate the benefits of DRM free distribution. So let's see if that will happen with video.

Someone should make a good service (site?) which will list DRM free distributors for various media where DRM is still present in general.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

#29
post #13

I've seen this same "solution" posted 3 times now to HN (forgive me not back-linking). Every one relies on WINE in some form, and every single one is choppy for me despite a lot of customization. I'm not sure where to go with it.

If you look at his website ( http://www.compholio.com/wine-compholio/ ) apparently he is using some of his own custom Wine patches to resolve choppiness.

This is actually the specific solution to which I'm referring. I get major choppiness.

Re: How to Watch Netflix in Ubuntu Linux

#30
post #24
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DVDs remain a video media which can be considered DRM free (their DRM is nominal and trivially removable). Most other video distribution channels remain seriously afflicted by DRM. Video is one of the few industries where DRM is still very dominant. Other industries such as e-books and gaming move away from DRM, though slowly. Or at least you can find decent DRM free channels for them. Music industry already dumped D…

The DRM on DVDs, while obviously long ago cracked wide open, still carries the legal implications of DRM. > Music industry already dumped DRM for good. This is the part that really gets to me. The music industry is still largely dominated by the sort of companies that also dominate video, and music files are vastly easier to trade around due to their siz, and yet DRM in music is nearly completely nonexistent these da…

Video costs many times more to produce, and is generally consumed only once.

Music is cheap to make and people tend to listen many times over, making the try-it-and-purchase-it model a genuine possibility that video doesn't really have.

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