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LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by free652 »

SmeelBe wrote: post #2

I not see any resemblance between layervault project and Flat UI, colors are different, icons too... explain please guys what is the problem?

I checked the colors and they're different. They may look the same, also square/flat interface is part of Windows 8.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by ajross »

bencevans wrote: post #20
ajross wrote: post #14

Can someone please summarize for those of us not plugged in to the web UI framework (or whatever this is) community? I'm seeing entities like "LayerVault" and "Flat UI" and products (?) named "trend" that I've never heard of. Is this an abuse of process I should actually care about or is it just a "who did what?" spit between estranged developers?

Flat UI ( http://designmodo.github.com/Flat-UI/ ) in an open source project along the same lines as Twitter Bootstrap. or another bootstrappable interface framework. LayerVault ( https://layervault.com/ ) are a company that provide a version control system for design work.

Thanks. This isn't directed at you personally, more at the community mindpool:

And did Flat UI derive artwork from LayerVault? Is there a connection between the developers? Did they work with the same artist? Certainly some of the icons on the two sites look similar, though I don't see any obvious duplication.

A critically important step in any hot blooded DMCA freakout is verifying whether or not infringement took place. The letter (frustratingly) doesn't point to any specifics but it does at least allege infringement. I can't find a clear denial in the linked thread. So again: should I be upset about this?

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by evdawg »

ajross wrote: post #14

Can someone please summarize for those of us not plugged in to the web UI framework (or whatever this is) community? I'm seeing entities like "LayerVault" and "Flat UI" and products (?) named "trend" that I've never heard of. Is this an abuse of process I should actually care about or is it just a "who did what?" spit between estranged developers?

This appears to be an abuse of process from LayerVault.

They have a design in a style that's not quite originally theirs-- they've seemingly abused the DMCA to have github remove a completely unrelated UI kit in the same style.

The two items in question are as follows: https://layervault.com/ http://designmodo.github.com/Flat-UI/

Flat UI has (seemingly) been designed and developed completely independently, having nothing to do with LayerVault. No artwork is derived, based-upon, designed by the same artist, etc.

You should care about this because the process is biased towards the accuser. Given no chance to rebut, Flat UI is removed, and disabled. Despite providing his side of the story in the commit comments https://github.com/github/dmca/commit/735e17614cca63102b8414..., the author now has to write a formal counter-takedown notification, and the repository will still be offline for up to 10 days (https://help.github.com/articles/dmca-takedown)

Furthermore, 'designers' and HN users should care because LayerVault runs a 'Hacker News' for designers at https://news.layervault.com/. LayerVault is not the right entity to run this site after these DMCA shenanigans (if in fact no infringement has taken place).

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by rustc »

Pyramids wrote: post #19

Filing a counter notification is extremely straightforward, and moves this to a court dispute, which will almost undoubtedly never happen. You can use Chilling Effects Counter-Notification generator to automate the process: http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca/counter512.pdf For those who are unfamiliar with DMCA notices, in short: 1. Content Provider Receives DMCA 2. Content Provider must act 'expeditiously' to remov…

Curious: What happens if the individual in question is NOT in the US? Can this still be done?

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by Kerrick »

ajross wrote: post #14

Can someone please summarize for those of us not plugged in to the web UI framework (or whatever this is) community? I'm seeing entities like "LayerVault" and "Flat UI" and products (?) named "trend" that I've never heard of. Is this an abuse of process I should actually care about or is it just a "who did what?" spit between estranged developers?

Yesterday, somebody posted a toolkit [0] on Github Pages consisting of a color pallette and some UI elements that are basically "flat" -- no gradients, drop shadows, etc, just color and shape.

Today, LayerVault [1], a company that makes 'github for designers,' sent a DCMA github a DCMA Takedown Notice [2], claiming that they own the exclusive rights to "the artwork contained within Flat UI."

The creators of Flat UI are disputing this in the linked comment thread, but we do not know if they've actually sent a DCMA Counter-Notification [3].

Incidentally, Flat UI's page probably did violate somebody's copyright, but not necessarily LayerVault's. No, they used part of Big Buck Bunny [4] without proper attribution [5] under its Creative Commons license [7].

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5321603

[1]: https://layervault.com/

[2]: https://github.com/github/dmca/commit/735e17614cca63102b8414...

[3]: https://help.github.com/articles/dmca-takedown

[4]: http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/

[6]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5322357

[7]: http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/about/

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by justjimmy »

This is why we can't have nice things.

Even Apple didn't even go after others when rounded corners, glassy/glossy, gradient buttons was the trend. (Yes, Apple didn't invent those, just as LV didn't invent flat UI or the art work - which btw, is just a flat color. Glad Pantone isn't going around with LV's mentality.)

Just speechless.

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