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Microsoft fined $731m by European Commission over web browser choice

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Re: Microsoft fined $731m by European Commission over web browser choice

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That's about $50 per user believed to have been affected by the error.

I understand the premise of the fine, but how is this supposed to help the consumers and businesses who now have to foot the $50 bill per seat?

By that logic no company should ever be fined as it hurts their users.

Re: Microsoft fined $731m by European Commission over web browser choice

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> It's completely crazy. There's nothing crazy about it. > We've accepted browsers are part of the OS for a long time We've accepted that browsers are necessary, the EU seems to have not accepted an OS natural monopoly can be leveraged into a browser monopoly. Sounds perfectly sane, and a good thing. > what's next fining Apple for not promoting Mozilla or Chrome on iOS? Apple does not have a monopoly marketshare, whi…

they did on iOS (for a while). Safari is bundled with iOS

Apple never had a monopoly in either the tablet or phone market. And it doesn't look like it will.

Re: Microsoft fined $731m by European Commission over web browser choice

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post #16

That's about $50 per user believed to have been affected by the error.

I understand the premise of the fine, but how is this supposed to help the consumers and businesses who now have to foot the $50 bill per seat?

If MS raises its prices, it will weaken their market position - that's the punishment for their malbehavior.

Re: Microsoft fined $731m by European Commission over web browser choice

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's completely crazy. There's nothing crazy about it. > We've accepted browsers are part of the OS for a long time We've accepted that browsers are necessary, the EU seems to have not accepted an OS natural monopoly can be leveraged into a browser monopoly. Sounds perfectly sane, and a good thing. > what's next fining Apple for not promoting Mozilla or Chrome on iOS? Apple does not have a monopoly marketshare, whi…

they did on iOS (for a while). Safari is bundled with iOS

> they did on iOS (for a while).

No. Apple never had a super-majority (or even a majority) of the smartphone marketshare, let alone in the EU where Symbian and BB historically held strong marketshares during iOS's tenure.

iOS's best has been 30~40% in some european country (not even EU-wide). Although it does capture the vast majority of profits, but that's not really relevant to antitrust-type cases.

I believe Samsung currently has a bigger share of the EU market than iOS. There never was a case of monopolistic abuse from apple in the EU, because they never came close to a monopoly.

Re: Microsoft fined $731m by European Commission over web browser choice

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post #11

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The right to continue to do business in the EU? That's what's at stake.

I don't think they can just cut off every Microsoft consultancy, every Windows user and throw them out of the EU. If they did, I'd be heading to Brussels with a pitchfork along with about 100 other people at my company.

Unpaid fines continue to grow. Eventually it would perfectly within reason to seize (take) Microsoft's copyright on windows making piracy perfectly legal.
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