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Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

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Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

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For me, the killer feature of Opera has always been the ability to reflow text to fit any size and zoom. Can anyone confirm this is still in?

Zooming is very "Chrome-like" if you used it before on Android. I'm not a fan of Chrome zoom though. I prefer the stock browser's or Opera Mobile's.

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other than what?

The USA. Looking at stats I see in Jan of this year they've got 1.9% market share ( http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp ). But I just saw that they're based in Norway so I'm sure it' popular there.

Stats are kind of misleading, since Opera's larger base is mostly Mobile browsing and other embedded devices (Wii, Nintendo DS, etc).

Mobile stats show it has ~16% of the market share[1][2]

[1] http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/189/statcountermobilebro... (flash alternative)

[2] http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-ww-monthly-201202-... (flash)

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#23
A question to anyone who knows/remembers this. I remember seeing a video that showed off a new experimental and highly different mobile UI that either Firefox or Opera created.

In it, there was a much smaller distinction between closed tabs and browsing history - they appeared the same.

Whatever happened to that prototype? I thought it was a good idea, but I never got a chance to see it in action. Is the project dead or does it exist somewhere. If the latter, is any good?

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

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I can't believe they moved the tab selector to the top. Who can easily reach the top of a screen with a finger in single-hand use? I cannot. Placing buttons up there makes using these apps incredibly annoying. Even worse would be on the top left, since that is the place farthest from my finger. Apart from UI changes there does not seem much new. I am still hoping they will make site preferences easily accessible so o…

Chrome for Android lets you move between tabs easily by swiping from the left and right corners of the screen (and swiping in general is used for tab navigation in Android). Maybe Opera could rip that off.

I hope they go for the quick toggles (touching the sides of the phone/tablet if enabled) like the stock browser has, but either option is better than none.

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have Opera installed on my Ace for two reasons: 1. Speed 2. Size If it's slower than stock and takes up a similar amount of space to Firefox... then there's no reason for me not to use Firefox.

How do you install Firefox (or Chrome) in Ace?

Download it directly from the Mozilla site: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mobile/aurora/

The Ace has very little available memory, so Mozilla still blocks it for Beta & Release because they think it doesn't work well enough. But your mileage may vary (greatly).

This is the Aurora build (Firefox 21) which has some more optimizations.

Chrome can't run on a phone that doesn't have at least Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0+) AFAIK.

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#26
post #9

For me, the killer feature of Opera has always been the ability to reflow text to fit any size and zoom. Can anyone confirm this is still in?

For what it's worth, the latest Firefox for Android has an option in Preferences called "Reflow text on zoom". It may be what you look for (but I don't use Opera enough to be sure).

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#27

A question to anyone who knows/remembers this. I remember seeing a video that showed off a new experimental and highly different mobile UI that either Firefox or Opera created. In it, there was a much smaller distinction between closed tabs and browsing history - they appeared the same. Whatever happened to that prototype? I thought it was a good idea, but I never got a chance to see it in action. Is the project dead…

In this press release, somewhat buried, is this message:

http://business.opera.com/press/releases/general/opera-gears...

“Opera is also experimenting with WebKit in several research and development projects, and many of you got a peek of one of them, codenamed ‘ICE’, last month. As a leading innovator in browsers, we are very excited that ICE received such great buzz. We will provide more information about ICE and other exciting R&D projects in the future, but as we are also really proud of our new browser on Android and our Opera Web Pass operator offering, those products will be the main focus at MWC,” says Wium Lie."

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#28
Any comments on "Features such as the combined URL/search bar may be unoriginal, but they were worth copying."?

On iOS with its split URL/search, I like it that the keyboard layout and autocorrect adjust to what you are doing. Is that less of an or no issue on Android, with its different way to do autocorrection?

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#30

Heh, first icon in Speed Dial is to Google+. Even though the browser is nearly identical to Chrome for Android under the hood, Google is still serving the basic html version to Opera.

Waiting for them to wake up and fix. :)
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