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Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by taligent »

patrickaljord wrote: post #17
taligent wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Apple should take every competitor seriously and I am sure they do. My point is that Google has a history of being unable to ship anything properly. And until we see them do so and with a sizable profit margin then they shouldn't be considered in the same league as Apple. And the important skill is not making the laptop it's in the supply chain management.

You just said "nobody will or should take them seriously" and now you're saying Apple should take them seriously. Google shipped tons of products properly, if you're talking about nexus devices, they don't even advertise those much, they're more of a testbed for what's coming.

No. Apple should take every competitor seriously no matter how insignificant. The rest of us however shouldn't.

And we are talking about hardware here. They have consistent failures in shipping hardware.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by wyclif »

pinaceae wrote: post #4

the big question is though, can Google also be awesome in Services going forward? i am loyal user of chrome, gmail, search, youtube, maps, picasa - in this order. none of which is younger than what, 5 years? innovation in those items? gmail got a new UI, but else? where are the BETA products? used to be the awesomeness of Google. ever since Page took over, they've been killing the small, useful things. ok, they want…

Gmail will be 10 years old on April 1st, 2014.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by ishansharma »

Google is definitely getting better. Their search infrastructure gives them a huge advantage over Apple. I have used Google Now on my friend's Android and it is much better than Siri.

I remember someone linking to a video of Google Now (maybe it was Gruber)and commenting, "How fast should Siri be? - This fast!"

Google can put a voice over their search interface and boom, they have a Siri alternative that works on any platform(though for web only, but it can integrate with Chrome and Android very easily). Just imagine asking your Chromebook to create a new appointment, that would be a nice feature. Or just asking Chrome to do it.

The only problem with Google is that they do not have any customer care! When things go fine, everything is well and good. But one day when your GMail account suddenly stops working and gets blocked, you have no human to talk to!

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by ishansharma »

pinaceae wrote: post #9
eurleif wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>gmail got a new UI, but else? Priority inbox? It's pretty useful.

true, don't use it for priority myself though, only to group unread items out of the rest of the inbox. which is indeed awesome.

And that is real advantage with Google. Priority Inbox(and every other feature) is a quite powerful tool and lets you use it the way you want it.

Try that with iCloud mail or any other Apple service. They look good, work well but may feel restrictive after some time!

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by graetzer »

taligent wrote: post #16
pinaceae wrote: post #4

the big question is though, can Google also be awesome in Services going forward? i am loyal user of chrome, gmail, search, youtube, maps, picasa - in this order. none of which is younger than what, 5 years? innovation in those items? gmail got a new UI, but else? where are the BETA products? used to be the awesomeness of Google. ever since Page took over, they've been killing the small, useful things. ok, they want…

Don't forget that they acquired YouTube, Maps, Picasa, Android and Chrome is a wrapper around WebKit.

Chrome is not just a wrapper. WebKit requires you to implement networking, graphics rendering, font rendering etc. There are huge differences between the different WebKit based browsers

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by robryan »

taligent wrote: post #18
mailarchis wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you are not taking into consideration google glass and self driving cars.

You do realise that Google didn't invent self driving cars and that they aren't even leading the industry. Mercedes Benz demoed the technology nearly 20 years ago and will be shipping cars along with Audi, Volvo etc en masse over the coming years. In fact every single notable car manufacturer has had their own program in place for decades.

How do we know who is leading the industry if the industry doesn't really exist right now?

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by tonfa »

wsc981 wrote: post #7

I still don't think Google has the culture to create a good consistent UI, something that has pretty much always been Apple's strongest asset - the reason I keep using Apple products. I don't think this will change, at least not anytime soon. Recently I developed an app for Android, but when using the toolkit and testing on a real device I realised how much stronger Apple is in the department of software design. That…

http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/24/3904134/google-redesign-ho...

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by kayoone »

bitL wrote: post #13

I am not really happy that Google is cloning all successful approaches from various companies with slight modifications to suit their own purposes. First Facebook, now Apple. Where is that amazing, creative, innovative company I once admired? It's like Microsoft all over again.

I am not really happy that Microsoft always is the example of a boring company while they have clearly been more innovative and bold than Apple in recent years. They built alot of cool tech in their labs and also release products that arent another iteration of older products to play it safe, eg. Surface, Windows 8, Metro, Kinect
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