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Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

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Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty simple-- As an American, I have a right to the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I don't want to give up any rights I don't have to. That includes the freedom to buy and carry a gun.

But I DO have to give up the right to travel without being strip-searched. A nation of paradoxes.

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Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

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post #6

Good that the man was not found there(in a sense that no one was harmed). I still would like to understand few things. Of course I shall not be able to understand how it feels to have a gun when you want it(and afterwards take a decision on how to use it. To defend yourself or flash in malls or kill children for fun or out of depression) as I live in a country where having fire-arms is either a luxury for powerful an…

I mean this just doesn't add up. There's some reason you have police, military, para-military and federal agencies so that citizens don't have to handle this aspect of security.

The poor latency of police response means that rampage killers(or anybody bent on harming anybody, really) can get away with killing several unarmed civilians before they can be stopped.

In theory, concealed carry individuals can put a stop to the rampage or at least keep the killer busy until the police arrive. You can google news stories about concealed arm carriers defending themselves. So it does works.

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty simple-- As an American, I have a right to the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I don't want to give up any rights I don't have to. That includes the freedom to buy and carry a gun.

But I DO have to give up the right to travel without being strip-searched. A nation of paradoxes.

(on a federally regulated airplane)

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

#24
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty simple-- As an American, I have a right to the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I don't want to give up any rights I don't have to. That includes the freedom to buy and carry a gun.

Your freedom to buy and carry a gun infringes on my right to feel safe in public

You feeling unsafe has nothing to do with rights. Lots of people feel unsafe around clowns. Let's just ban clowns.

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

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Long rifle? Seems unlikely to me, but we should probably ban them. http://www.google.com/search?q=long+rifle&tbm=isch

They almost certainly mean "long arm/gun", e.g. not a handgun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_gun

Yes, I know. Just pointing out the typical mislabeling that always happens... kind of surprised they didn't call it a Glock.

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

#26

Long rifle? Seems unlikely to me, but we should probably ban them. http://www.google.com/search?q=long+rifle&tbm=isch

I am sure banning them would have prevented this situation from ever happening.

Yeah, I guess my sarcasm wasn't apparent.

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

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post #15
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty simple-- As an American, I have a right to the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I don't want to give up any rights I don't have to. That includes the freedom to buy and carry a gun.

I think this is the part a lot of people fail to understand. The mere existence of police that is supposed to protect people doesn't mean everyone in the society agrees to transfer all of those functions to it. Assuming that is pure ignorance. It still gets pretty hilarious when you ask to see your signature under this mythical social contract everyone supposedly signed.

And the failure of others to recognize that they live in a society and that their actions have an effect on others is just as obnoxious.

You may be happy to take your chances and own and carry a firearm, but why should I, or any other bystander, have to take your chances?

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

#28
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty simple-- As an American, I have a right to the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I don't want to give up any rights I don't have to. That includes the freedom to buy and carry a gun.

But I DO have to give up the right to travel without being strip-searched. A nation of paradoxes.

On a commercial airliner.. To my knowledge private planes don't have crazy restrictions or invasive searches.

Indeed, you don't have to fly at all.

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

#29
I just want to say as an American, I am so fed up with all these gun stories. I understand there is debate about gun control and this and that, but we are having a much larger cultural problem here. The attitude of helping your neighbor or even someone less fortunate is slowly disappearing and being replaced by a fear for protecting what we have, as if someone else is after it. In my mind it's cyclical, if we help those in need, they really won't be after what we are trying to protect. As for the random gun violence, its enough already.

Being born and raised in Flint, and the victim of gun violence (father was murdered outside his work for 20+years over <$600) I always tell people Flint might be the murder capital of the world, but we aren't the random murder capitol of the world. For whatever its worth, its true.

Re: Person with a long rifle and body armor in the Main Group Building of MIT

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Long rifle? Seems unlikely to me, but we should probably ban them. http://www.google.com/search?q=long+rifle&tbm=isch

I am sure banning them would have prevented this situation from ever happening.

The right to bear arms and the human bill of rights is not up for re-interpreting and re-writing. Why are you trying to unwravel what the Utopia that our founding fathers created by making us more like Russia and China?
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