Would it be more acceptable if there was a "female version" of this shirt? I'm glad we're examining this at a meta level more often, and I can see how this is exclusive, certainly. Would it become (more) inclusive or even "ok" if there was some other jokey concept for women as well?
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#22So what? It's a penis joke? What is so bad about that if it's the case? Honestly, the only thing this (the article) accomplishes is making it appear that women have no humor... If people are offended by this, I simply would not care. I mean, there is nothing more I'd love than to have more women in the programming world, but having people with no humor? Nah, I'd rather pass that then. (If this comes off as sexist or…
I remember a time when shirts and ties were expected clothing for work.
Wanting the right to wear penis joke t-shirts while not allowing others to have the right to complain about those t-shirts feels surprising.
I happily accept that many places just wouldn't care about this t-shirt. It seems pretty harmless.
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#23So what? It's a penis joke? What is so bad about that if it's the case? Honestly, the only thing this (the article) accomplishes is making it appear that women have no humor... If people are offended by this, I simply would not care. I mean, there is nothing more I'd love than to have more women in the programming world, but having people with no humor? Nah, I'd rather pass that then. (If this comes off as sexist or…
I must be getting old, or it's late here but I didn't get the "penis" joke till you mentioned it.
Well, considering the phrasing is a bit like what you might see in a viagra add, and the fact that if you say it out loud the Pness part in PHPness is almost literally pronounced penis.
Either way, I would have given it any second thought if it weren't for the article, so I know what you mean.
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#24So what? It's a penis joke? What is so bad about that if it's the case? Honestly, the only thing this (the article) accomplishes is making it appear that women have no humor... If people are offended by this, I simply would not care. I mean, there is nothing more I'd love than to have more women in the programming world, but having people with no humor? Nah, I'd rather pass that then. (If this comes off as sexist or…
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#25TIL making a joke about a male body part is misogyny.
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#26Oh hey look, another dick joke on a t-shirt promoting programming to the masses. How funny, right? Hur, hur, hur.
At this point, I don't know what's more of a joke, this type of marketing or the joke itself.
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#27So what? It's a penis joke? What is so bad about that if it's the case? Honestly, the only thing this (the article) accomplishes is making it appear that women have no humor... If people are offended by this, I simply would not care. I mean, there is nothing more I'd love than to have more women in the programming world, but having people with no humor? Nah, I'd rather pass that then. (If this comes off as sexist or…
It's not even a penis joke - I and many others didn't notice the penis reference until it was pointed out.
This is just begging for a t-shirt that contains:
a) a male insult, female insult and transgender insult;
b) a christian insult, muslim insult and an atheist insult;
c) a white-trash insult, a black insult and an asian insult;
and a caricature of killing babies for fun to top it off.
So that everybody is offended equally without discrimination and we can leave it that.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is the shirt the OP is talking about: https://twitter.com/webandphp/status/261241003204300801
Juvenile, yes. But offensive toward women? How?
I'm just throwing out my own intuition here, but I think that firstly, there's an implication that you have a penis. You don't? Odd one out.
Secondly, if a woman were to say that verbally to a man, there would be a flirtatious connotation, which would lead women to feel uncomfortable wearing a shirt saying the same and hanging around with a load of strangers.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Juvenile, yes. But offensive toward women? How?
I'm just throwing out my own intuition here, but I think that firstly, there's an implication that you have a penis. You don't? Odd one out. Secondly, if a woman were to say that verbally to a man, there would be a flirtatious connotation, which would lead women to feel uncomfortable wearing a shirt saying the same and hanging around with a load of strangers.
I saw a woman wear a "Byte Me" t-shirt at the last conference I went to. Who do I talk to about fixing this? :)
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#30I'm pretty sure this is the kind of article that is doing a lot more harm than good to the female gender by shifting the focus from real issues (pay inequality, harassment and such) to trivial and harmless puns.
I sometime wonder if these people (like the author) are just trolls waiting for a good useless polemic to arise in order to shove down our throat how well behaved they are. Pathetic.