Some of the best engineers I've ever worked with had no college degree. Give me someone passionate, dedicated, honest working, smart and fun to be around, degree or no degree, that person is going to be an assest to any company.
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#23Did this catch the attention of anyone else? “I am over $100,000 in student loan debt right now,” said Megan Parker, who earns $37,000 as the firm’s receptionist. She graduated from the Art Institute of Atlanta in 2011 with a degree in fashion and retail management, and spent months waiting on “bridezillas” at a couture boutique, among other stores, while churning out office-job applications. ----- Something is very,…
I really don't understand how people get sucked into these for-profit (scam) schools. Or why the federal government provides student loans for students going to such places. Presuming Ms. Parker lived in Georgia, in-state tuition at most public universities there would've cost her much less, and provided a better education. (and that's not including things like Georgia's Hope scholarship program)
The schools have excellent marketing campaigns. Their TV commercials run all day, with emphasis on the daytime market. They show up to high school college fairs with slick marketing material and huge promises of careers that appeal to teenagers. Plus, they make signing up for loans as streamlined and easy as possible.
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#24Did this catch the attention of anyone else? “I am over $100,000 in student loan debt right now,” said Megan Parker, who earns $37,000 as the firm’s receptionist. She graduated from the Art Institute of Atlanta in 2011 with a degree in fashion and retail management, and spent months waiting on “bridezillas” at a couture boutique, among other stores, while churning out office-job applications. ----- Something is very,…
I really don't understand how people get sucked into these for-profit (scam) schools. Or why the federal government provides student loans for students going to such places. Presuming Ms. Parker lived in Georgia, in-state tuition at most public universities there would've cost her much less, and provided a better education. (and that's not including things like Georgia's Hope scholarship program)
In-state tuition is still rising well ahead of the means for most to pay for it out of pocket. It's not six figures by any means, but I envy the stories of generations past that managed to live at home, work part time year round or full time in the summer, and come out four years later more or less unscathed. It's frustrating to watch prices rise while state funds stay constant or decrease.
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#25Article opens with the very thought I left college 10 years ago thinking--this degree is just my new high school diploma. Maybe in another generation or two, we'll see graduate degrees becoming the new BA/BS. Maybe then people will begin to realize this is all a farce.
I'm not sure it's a farce, or at least that's not the word I would use. I haven't graduated high school yet (3 months to go) but I think it's probably better for people to have more knowledge on a subject. So if we're raising the bar, I don't see how that's a bad thing. Eventually the system will catch up and student loands will get remade into a better system, but until that time you can definitely avoid accumulating $100,000 in debt; state schools are much cheaper, and there are plenty of scholarships and grants available if you look in the right places.
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#26Did this catch the attention of anyone else? “I am over $100,000 in student loan debt right now,” said Megan Parker, who earns $37,000 as the firm’s receptionist. She graduated from the Art Institute of Atlanta in 2011 with a degree in fashion and retail management, and spent months waiting on “bridezillas” at a couture boutique, among other stores, while churning out office-job applications. ----- Something is very,…
Something is wrong with people that that they choose to go to schools that cost $100,000 to get degrees in fashion and/or retail management.
Maybe. But I think the school system (K-12 and higher education) are somewhat culpable here.
Starting fairly early, we teach students that there are a bunch of hoops they need to jump through in order to get a good job later in life. For an 18 year old, it is easy to see college as just another (and hopefully last) hoop to jump through.
Colleges (and the for-profit schools are exceptionally bad here) show them a rosy outlook for whatever major they are interested in - I guarantee you every person who is up to their eyeballs in debt got shown something saying "x% of graduates from the program were employed 6 months after graduation with average salary of $y" based on questionable information, did the math, and thought it was a reasonable choice.
I don't think high school students are given enough information and enough reality to fully understand the ramifications of their college choices.
I absolutely made some bad choices when picking my major in college, but it took me quite a while to really figure that out - thankfully, I at least didn't get a bunch of debt to go along with it.
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#27Did this catch the attention of anyone else? “I am over $100,000 in student loan debt right now,” said Megan Parker, who earns $37,000 as the firm’s receptionist. She graduated from the Art Institute of Atlanta in 2011 with a degree in fashion and retail management, and spent months waiting on “bridezillas” at a couture boutique, among other stores, while churning out office-job applications. ----- Something is very,…
Something is wrong with people that that they choose to go to schools that cost $100,000 to get degrees in fashion and/or retail management.
Something is wrong with employers who only hire university graduates, creating a market for receptionists with $100,000 art degrees.
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#28Did this catch the attention of anyone else? “I am over $100,000 in student loan debt right now,” said Megan Parker, who earns $37,000 as the firm’s receptionist. She graduated from the Art Institute of Atlanta in 2011 with a degree in fashion and retail management, and spent months waiting on “bridezillas” at a couture boutique, among other stores, while churning out office-job applications. ----- Something is very,…
Something is wrong with people that that they choose to go to schools that cost $100,000 to get degrees in fashion and/or retail management.
Art schools are notoriously expensive and the degrees are notoriously worthless. I draw as a hobby, and at one point in my life I was thinking about going to art school. I was a member of a HN like community for artists, and the advice I got was to get the cheapest liberal arts degree I could find if I was serious about being an artist, and then draw constantly on my own, go to free/cheap workshops, take on small contracts, etc. Almost every single person in that community regretted spending the money for an actual art degree.
It's really just common sense, in most industries, having a degree is either looked at as a huge bonus, or a flat-out requirement. As an artist, you would have an extremely hard time finding a client / employer who cares if you even graduated from high school or learned to tie your shoes, as long as they like what's in your portfolio.
That being said, anything remotely related to art is going to be highly competitive, because no one really retires from being an artist, and there lots of people who have 30+ years of experience.
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#29Did this catch the attention of anyone else? “I am over $100,000 in student loan debt right now,” said Megan Parker, who earns $37,000 as the firm’s receptionist. She graduated from the Art Institute of Atlanta in 2011 with a degree in fashion and retail management, and spent months waiting on “bridezillas” at a couture boutique, among other stores, while churning out office-job applications. ----- Something is very,…
I work in the careers space and did a conference call with 20-30 career services professionals from Art Institutes campuses across the country. It became very clear during the call that they were in the difficult position of telling their students that the commercials that told them that the degree would get them a great job weren't quite telling the truth.
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#30Some of the best engineers I've ever worked with had no college degree. Give me someone passionate, dedicated, honest working, smart and fun to be around, degree or no degree, that person is going to be an assest to any company.
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This is so disingenuous and plain misleading and I see it around a bit.
Most of them, if not all went to Uni.
They then made great contacts and could pull out because they became successful early.
Without Uni, they possibly would all be nobodies.