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Don’t Waste Your Twenties

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Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

#21
Here are three of my decades thus far. I'm trying to decide which of these was "wasted" according to the article:

Phase I, 21-30: "Work hard/Play hard" mode, socking away retirement savings, building skills & reputation to prepare for Phase II, nights & weekends packed with climbing trips and going out. "I think I can get a full night sleep the weekend after next".

Phase II, 30-40: "Semi-retired nomad" mode, working short (~3mo) contracts about once a year, logging several laps around the world & entire seasons spent chilling at some of the best climbing areas anywhere. Building SaaS products from the beach to finance Phase III.

Phase III, 40-: "Comfortable family guy" mode, working remotely from a little village in the countryside south of Paris with some of the best bouldering in the world, playing with the kid in the garden, and doing "vacations" involving actually booking hotel rooms and not forcing myself to live on $15/day when on the road.

I think according to the article, I was supposed to swap out the "work for employers" part of Phase I for the "build products" part of Phase II. But I'm not sure where Phase II would have come in, had I done that. It's tough.

I guess the best a fella can do is pay attention to one's life and try to at least have a plan. Had you asked 25 year old Jason what his plan was, he would have described something remarkably similar to the above. Except that Phase III might have involved a 19 year old Swedish girl and happened in his sixties:)

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

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post #18

I'm a little disappointed in the middlebrow dismissals here. Let's set aside the brain stuff and do some simple math: you're going to live anywhere from three to seven decades after you reach 30, but only one decade of adulthood before. Therefore your have the opportunity to build a foundation for your life's happiness in your 20's. Economists have this notion called the "discount rate", which is the degree to which…

This neglects that for many people your 20s are also when you're at your most active, most sociable and all-round most alive. To me an over-emphasis on 'investing' during this period is the real waste.

Activity and sociability are exactly the resources you use to create your investments, by achieving real accomplishments, building your skills, and meeting the people who will become your lifelong friends. Hell, you should even have a lot of fun--having good memories and stories to tell are an investment, too. But bias yourself towards things you'll want to have done later, not just things you want to do now.

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

#23
Can someone properly define "wasting" please? Accomplishments, last I checked, don't have a youth fetish.

This one was well written, but these types of articles miss the point. You can't make sweeping generalizations based on brain chemistry alone. Experience and background plays a large part of who we are, not just genes.

You succeed when you succeed, if it happens. Sometimes, maturity is essential for the process, but age is often not a factor on the Internet. I remember an article posted here (can't recall at the moment, maybe my 30yo brain failed me, HA!) where a designer discussed how people disregarded his accomplishments and talent because he was comparatively young. Well, after going exclusively online, that's not a factor. Same applies for older people as well.

Curiosity, passion, innovation, all the things that make the 20yo brain so wonderful, according to the article, can be sustained well into later years as well.

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

#24
No matter what the age, you can still take control of your life. Also, time wasted enjoyed is not wasted time. So what if your peers were successful in their 20's and you spent your time enjoying what you wanted. Agreed, that with age you are a different person in your physical and mental ability, you got to make the most of your time here and and have no regrets.

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

#25
Sometimes I worry that I'm missing my twenties. I'm 26 now and occasionally wish I had done more.

But if you look back there are lots of things you've done. They might not be as crazy, exciting or important as some people manage. But the truth is your probably ahead of the curve; very few people achieve truly extraordinary things.

I've travelled, met amazing people, started my own business, fallen in and out of love. I could have maybe done more of all these things, but it's hard to regret them.

Don't waste any decades of your life. But also, don't think about your life experience so far as wasted. That's silly.

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

#27

In my opinion it's all about the golden mean . Party too much and you will regret not achieving anything in life, working a shitty job you hate for mediocre money. Work too much and you will regret not having fun being young, realising it's too late now and even the money you have won't make for the lost time.

Yeah I agree. 20s are the time in which you basically bootstrap your life. Anyway, did the author ever think for a minute that Kepler or Newton were probably pretty "special" people? I don't believe any article about the human brain except it is from a decorated Neuroscientist... ;)

"Special" hardly does Newton justice - not many top scientists have made a succesful jump to undercover secret service agent fighting organised crime...

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

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post #5

I hate these kinds of articles because they can put tremendous pressure on people. There isn't a "right" way to spend your twenties (or thirties, or any decade) and comparing yourself to Einstein and Newton and Kepler like this article does is worse than counterproductive. The only way you should concern yourself with living is to try to be happy every day, whatever that means to you. Listening to pundits showing you…

> The only way you should concern yourself with living is to try to be happy every day, whatever that means to you. Barf. There's a lot more to life and human flourishing than just making yourself happy.

No need for the barf response. It's actually the truest and best advice one can get.

Genius does what genius knows will make him/her happy[1].

That's it. Simple as that.

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[1] Of course we know and appreciate the difficulty of defining that. Or that we've appreciated that happiness is probably only "achievable" obliquely. Or that happiness isn't what we are after ... after all, and that it's meaningfulness that we seek. Or that even after searching for meaning we come to the absurd conclusion that our existence is devoid of any meaning! Doesn't matter really, just be happy. FFS.

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

#29
Articles like this remind me of "Spreadsheet CEOs": people who focus only on what is visible in the numbers, and not on all the little underlying things that make all that possible. Save costs by removing trash bins from every desk. Make money by focusing on the best-selling products or services only.

At the age the people mentioned in this article were busy starting businesses and winning nobel prizes, I was busy discovering my personality, improving my soft skills, getting over myself little ridiculous situations that had always made me nervous, and developing a small set of real, true friendships. Is the result measurable on my CV? Surely not. Did I spend a significant amount of time in bars or hung over? Definitely. Were my twenties wasted? I can't see how.

Re: Don’t Waste Your Twenties

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I agree. 20s are the time in which you basically bootstrap your life. Anyway, did the author ever think for a minute that Kepler or Newton were probably pretty "special" people? I don't believe any article about the human brain except it is from a decorated Neuroscientist... ;)

"Special" hardly does Newton justice - not many top scientists have made a succesful jump to undercover secret service agent fighting organised crime...

What I mean is, when you look at the list of people in the article: pick one of them and odds are high that this person is just completely over the top, super smart, IQ over xxx and whatever. When you think you are super smart, you are probably not so smart in comparison to this person.
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