4chan has a very similar dynamic vis-a-vis ephemerality and lowering social inhibitions. On 4chan nothing is saved (internally) and threads disappear minutes after people stop posting actively in them. This was the first thing I thought of when hearing (just now) about Snapchat: "Oh, it's like 4chan."
How Snapchat took over Yale
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Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
The key here is intention. While of course it's quite possible for images to be reproduced in one way or another, the fact that they must be reproduced, and not simply 'shared' or 're-*ed,' changes the user's relation to the app. I think this gets to the tone of the article, as communicating this way implies a level of trust and/or intimacy usually reserved for analog methods. Snapchat is brilliant in this regard. I…
I think we're going to see a lot more communication platforms built on limitations -- This would be an interesting brainstorm.
lets do it! I'll go first:
How about a chat program based on sharing websites?
Or an email program without a subject line?
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seeing that someone took a screenshot will usually deter you from sending more embarrassing photos in the future.
If you're expecting something potentially embarrassing, then it's not so hard to be at the ready with a camera to take a photo of the screen.
Heh, it's hard just because very few people have another camera nowadays.
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah they do. It's more of the fact that it alerts the other person when someone does that. If for instance I knew person a's trust in me would be decreased a lot if they knew I tried to save something they didn't want to be saved, then that gives me my own moral I guess gauge as to playing by the rules. If I didn't know the person then obviously the limiting factor my internal gauge might put in is decreased. If a f…
This App promotes itself with 'temporary photo's'. But they're anything but. Combine teens with 'private' photo's that really are not temporary and basically it's an accident waiting to happen. I think we've all heard our share of jealous ex(boy)friend stories dumping loads of pics when the relation crashed . If people feel save because the images are 'temporary' odd are they'll find out things were not so private. T…
>I think we've all heard our share of jealous ex(boy)friend stories dumping loads of pics when the relation crashed.
This app certainly discourages that collecting of pics though. It's not like sexting where they are just sitting in the texting logs. Yes, people can work around the restrictions but the key is they have to work around it.
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#25I hope I'm not coming off as a conspiracy nut, but I can't see the US Government being too keen on something like this that's truly untraceable. IANAL, but it seems to me that every service or software that is used for personal communication is forced by the Feds to allow accessibility for wiretapping circumstances. Of course, I'm completely against it and I believe the situation is completely untenable for them to p…
This hardly untraceable. Everything going through the networks is recordable and the Government has access to it all.
Right, but the same could be said about Facebook and other social networks. The FBI wants more specific access to social media services so that they can gather contextual evidence instead of just whatever is out there in the ether:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57544139-38/judge-prods-fb...
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#26My 12 year old and her group of friends are hooked on Snapchat. No idea it had reached the University/College level. My understanding is the kids love it because several parents insist that their children never delete their texts until the parent has reviewed all of them each night. People will share more when they know that content goes away. Makes a lot of sense but would have never thought of it that way prior.
I am not one that checks my daughter's txts every night, but I do educate her that her actions can have farther reaching consequences than a young person might think at the time. Doesn't the false sense of privacy that this app creates give you concern that your daughter and her group of friends might overshare and create problems for themselves or others? The content does not go away, there is no way to prevent that…
All those are much easier to fake, and thus deny.
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#27My 12 year old and her group of friends are hooked on Snapchat. No idea it had reached the University/College level. My understanding is the kids love it because several parents insist that their children never delete their texts until the parent has reviewed all of them each night. People will share more when they know that content goes away. Makes a lot of sense but would have never thought of it that way prior.
I am not one that checks my daughter's txts every night, but I do educate her that her actions can have farther reaching consequences than a young person might think at the time. Doesn't the false sense of privacy that this app creates give you concern that your daughter and her group of friends might overshare and create problems for themselves or others? The content does not go away, there is no way to prevent that…
A lot of things worry me about my daughter(s) and the technology that they use. It sounds like you take the same approach. I can't tackle each new app in a tactical fashion so I can only drive the 30,000 foot level stuff. "Would you be proud of this if someone else saw it? Do you think that's hurtful to other folks involved?" etc so that she asks herself those questions. Honestly the ones that seem most vulnerable are those ones where their parents are micromanaging - but that's probably just symptomatic of larger issues.
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#28My 12 year old and her group of friends are hooked on Snapchat. No idea it had reached the University/College level. My understanding is the kids love it because several parents insist that their children never delete their texts until the parent has reviewed all of them each night. People will share more when they know that content goes away. Makes a lot of sense but would have never thought of it that way prior.
It started at the college level. For months it was literally only on Stanford's campus (where the founders are students).
Did not know. Thanks for sharing.
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#29the best part of this article is that we learn even yale undergraduates have no idea how statistics work. "i estimate that the contacts in my phone are a representative sample." based on what? the fact that you want to make generalizations?
Re: How Snapchat took over Yale
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
This hardly untraceable. Everything going through the networks is recordable and the Government has access to it all.
Right, but the same could be said about Facebook and other social networks. The FBI wants more specific access to social media services so that they can gather contextual evidence instead of just whatever is out there in the ether: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57544139-38/judge-prods-fb...
The point is that at a technical level, SnapChat imposes no barriers to an actor like NSA. It's not even designed to. So it's already far from "untraceable" and it's gratuitous to suggest that the government will kill the service or even need to change anything in order to see what you are sending on SnapChat when they want to.