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Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
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Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
This comment exposes the elitist Europhile mindset beautifully. Yes, another Roman Empire to allow a small imperial caste to rule the entire continent is exactly what they are aiming for.
Do you realize that the current convoluted lack of accountability is largely a result of the lack of deeper integration? E.g. the EU is limited in how much of the power that is vested in EU organizations that can be transferred to the parliament, because much of the power that is elsewhere is there as a side effect of that power nationally being delegated to the sitting cabinets, and so in most countries it will take…
The idea that you could, even in principle, make an organisation like the EU "accountable" at all is fundamentally mistaken.
My critique of the EU is not that it is doing a bad job of ruling people from on high, and that we should reform it to make it better, but rather that the very idea of trying to govern an entire continent is wrongheaded from the get-go.
We are perfectly capable of cooperating and trading and working together without adding another layer of government on top.
Thankfully, it is becoming abundantly clear that the whole project is doomed to failure. I just hope that it falls apart before further forced integration creates a lot of bloodshed, and not after.
Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#23Frontiers of Europe from -500 to 2013.
Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#24I especially found the map of europe Year 1 vs 2000 interesting. Hopefully, it won't take another 2k years for the EU to grow back together as a community. Of course, there are the intermittent 2k years that have divided us, but if you compare the progress over the last 50 to the previous roughly 2k I think we've done quit well.
Yeah, we really dream of being swallowed up and exploited by a greater empire again, because we haven't had enough of that fun yet in the period between the Roman empire and the 3rd Reich...
There's no "back together" because there has never been a together that wasn't under the sword or the gun in the first place. Peace, cooperation and wide open borders within the EU, great. The EU as the next empire, no thanks.
If anything, the ideal future map of Europe has more borders as communities peacefully regain their autonomy and independence.
Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
This comment exposes the elitist Europhile mindset beautifully. Yes, another Roman Empire to allow a small imperial caste to rule the entire continent is exactly what they are aiming for.
That's not what I meant to convey at all. The idea is that cultures that have a different history, a history of conflict, blood and war - as one would probably guess just by observing the lines on this map - can come together, work together and overcome their different antagonistic histories, in order to attain peace. If other states were to join, islamic states, such as Turkey, and it were to work, this would be an…
You realize that the vast majority of that history of conflict, blood and war has been caused by attempts to remove those lines from the map?
Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you realize that the current convoluted lack of accountability is largely a result of the lack of deeper integration? E.g. the EU is limited in how much of the power that is vested in EU organizations that can be transferred to the parliament, because much of the power that is elsewhere is there as a side effect of that power nationally being delegated to the sitting cabinets, and so in most countries it will take…
The idea that you could, even in principle, make an organisation like the EU "accountable" at all is fundamentally mistaken. My critique of the EU is not that it is doing a bad job of ruling people from on high, and that we should reform it to make it better, but rather that the very idea of trying to govern an entire continent is wrongheaded from the get-go. We are perfectly capable of cooperating and trading and wo…
So manifest destiny was also a no-go?
Federal systems are meant to be scalable. The US gov't might have its problems, but the land size it governs is not the source of these. If you needed proof of concept, there you go.
Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea that you could, even in principle, make an organisation like the EU "accountable" at all is fundamentally mistaken. My critique of the EU is not that it is doing a bad job of ruling people from on high, and that we should reform it to make it better, but rather that the very idea of trying to govern an entire continent is wrongheaded from the get-go. We are perfectly capable of cooperating and trading and wo…
So manifest destiny was also a no-go? Federal systems are meant to be scalable. The US gov't might have its problems, but the land size it governs is not the source of these. If you needed proof of concept, there you go.
The US federal government is a perfect example. Remote - geographically, culturally, and financially - from the people it governs, it has continually eroded the freedoms and protections of the bill of rights, and has usurped the sovereign authority of the state governments.
The federal government has been a great success for those with the money to control it and bend its power to their will, but has been an absolute disaster for the vast number of ordinary Americans.
Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#28I especially found the map of europe Year 1 vs 2000 interesting. Hopefully, it won't take another 2k years for the EU to grow back together as a community. Of course, there are the intermittent 2k years that have divided us, but if you compare the progress over the last 50 to the previous roughly 2k I think we've done quit well.
Not sure whether you are pro- or anti-EU with that comment... You are aware that the union in year 1 was effectively a somewhat brutal dictatorship imposed by force where human life was treated as a toy for an elite caste that ruled from afar, right? There was no 'EU community' then. There was the brutal rule of hierarchical violence and fealty to pay to a foreign emperor. Regardless of what you think of the EU, the…
Should be a link to "Life of Brian" here - where Cleese says "What have the Romans every given us? Nothun'!" and a cell member raises his hand. "The Aquaduct?" "Oh yeah, the Aquaduct, yeah, that." And on and on until they have a long list of improvements instituted by the Romans.
Re: Periodis Web – A Historical Atlas and Gazetteer of Europe from Year 1 to 2000
#29I especially found the map of europe Year 1 vs 2000 interesting. Hopefully, it won't take another 2k years for the EU to grow back together as a community. Of course, there are the intermittent 2k years that have divided us, but if you compare the progress over the last 50 to the previous roughly 2k I think we've done quit well.
The one thing you're missing, is the USA. Europe, as a cultural whole, should really include USA. In that perspective, the map has actually changed quite a bit since year 1.
Never thought of it quite like that - yes, we did expand the Borders a little:-)
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#30I prefer the maps in Wikimedia Commons - there are some amateur maps, which may be even better than some lifted from expired-copyright atlases.
There are quite a few different historical maps of the same year/region - it is very important to have them side by side, because history is very subjective and historical maps are only a subjective and deficient in data representations of historical presence.
Maps (by century): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_by_century_s...