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Re: Migration flows across the world

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Interestingly, both the UK and Russia are top destinations for people to both go to and leave. Also there seem to be almost as many people leaving Russia to go to the Ukraine as leaving Ukraine to go to Russia. Any one have any idea why this would be?

In Russia's case there's no real anomaly: it's one of the most populous countries in the world anyway and has a lot of ex-USSR family and historic ties to the surrounding countries. Throw in the sort of political problems and business opportunities on both sides of the borders that might further incentivise migration.

The UK has strong historic connections with the rest of the world that are reflected in relatively generous reciprocal visa arrangements, strong family ties and dreams to move here. Europeans can easily move backwards and forwards as job opportunities come and go, and usually speak good English these days. People from South Asian and Caribbean have strong family connections as well as economic incentives to migrate here. On the other hand, we have a strong economic incentive to take higher paying jobs in Australia (with young people getting automatic work visas for a year in advance of any attempts to secure a job) or the US, which is probably a little less unsympathetic towards Anglophone countries and qualifications when it comes to handing the visas out.

Re: Migration flows across the world

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Interestingly there was a discussion over Bill Gate's measuring teachers report with heated debate about the right graph to choose (scatterplots vs xxx) I like this and it is interesting information, but sorry, the "right" graphic to use here is the Mercator projection. I have to scroll down a long way to see which country people leave Azerbijan for (Russia). But the data is interesting. And its a helluva lot harder…

"but sorry, the "right" graphic to use here is the Mercator projection." Maybe I'm just not understanding you, but this doesn't make sense to me. The site doesn't even show a map, what does the Mercator projection have to do with it?

The data is number of people migrating from country X to country Y - so click on a country on the map of the world (Mercator Projection) and see lines appear linking UK with all the countries where people have emigrated.

Re: Migration flows across the world

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Interestingly there was a discussion over Bill Gate's measuring teachers report with heated debate about the right graph to choose (scatterplots vs xxx) I like this and it is interesting information, but sorry, the "right" graphic to use here is the Mercator projection. I have to scroll down a long way to see which country people leave Azerbijan for (Russia). But the data is interesting. And its a helluva lot harder…

I'd argue that the Mercator projection is not the right projection if you want to show the entire world. The distortion introduced over large areas is fairly extreme, and I think relative geographical sizes are fairly important for displaying that kind of graphic.

Re: Migration flows across the world

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Adding in a table of the countries with the most emi/imigrants by proportion of the population would be useful. I thought Afghanistan had a high emigrant figure - 8% BUT New Zealand has 14% !

The figures for palestine are insane. Population: 2,514,845 Immigrants: 1,923,808 Emigrants: 3,017,140

Re: Migration flows across the world

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The table is pretty but it doesn't sort permanent versus temporary movements. For example I don't think the 1 million Pakistanis who've emigrated to Saudi Arabia will be allowed to get citizenship and settle which is quite different to other countries.

This is a good point and perhaps the reverse case: e.g. immigrants who have become citizens, would be even more interesting. For example the % of Americans foreign born is higher than this (I believe) but many have already received citizenship and are presumably not counted here.

Re: Migration flows across the world

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Interestingly, both the UK and Russia are top destinations for people to both go to and leave. Also there seem to be almost as many people leaving Russia to go to the Ukraine as leaving Ukraine to go to Russia. Any one have any idea why this would be?

Probably similar to the way many New Yorkers move to Pennsylvania and many Pennsylvanians move to NY each year.

But perhaps in the UK case: we'd probably see that those leaving tend to be retirees whereas those coming are coming to work!

Re: Migration flows across the world

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An interesting take-away: The US is the only 'western' country with a significant East Asian demographic. I'm particularly surprised to see that Philippines come in 3rd to the US After Mexicans and Chinese. Perhaps related to the US military base history there?
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