TestFlight should be on Twitter's short list, too.
Burstly acquired TestFlight in Q4 2011.
Twitter acquires Crashlytics
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Burstly acquired TestFlight in Q4 2011.
To be honest I did not know that. However, I do wish (quite often) that Apple would acquire TestFlight and make the service more stable. Can't live without it. But I suppose now Burstly must be on Twitter's radar, too.
Re: Twitter acquires Crashlytics
#24I didn't see the part about twitter turning into a multiple-product company. They've kept Posterous alive but besides that, just about anything they've acquired has been rolled into their core product or dismantled. I'd welcome the change, but I really don't know whether to believe the part about Crashlytics continuing unabated.
They acquired TweetDeck and changed it a little but the team and registered company still resides in England.
and as you said Posterous is the other example, although I wouldn't say that's really a Twitter product. They're just letting people leave that at their own will and eventually they'll just turn it off.
Re: Twitter acquires Crashlytics
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Crashlytics has literally changed the game with regards to crash reporting. Their UI and customer service has been wonderful (unlike most other mobile service providers...) and I really hope they continue to offer their services to devs.
They're very big on polish and claiming to be awesome, but it's all smoke and mirrors and gamesmanship. Drill down on a crash for example: https://d1f4seebrc9wq7.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-content/upload... All the information provided at the top is done with great attention to beautifully rendered icons, and it's all totally useless for diagnosing a crash report. This is supposed to be a development tool, not an adverti…
I use it in production with an app that has >50K users. It shows you the exact lines, and break down where it happens. What you showed isn't even important.
Re: Twitter acquires Crashlytics
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're very big on polish and claiming to be awesome, but it's all smoke and mirrors and gamesmanship. Drill down on a crash for example: https://d1f4seebrc9wq7.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-content/upload... All the information provided at the top is done with great attention to beautifully rendered icons, and it's all totally useless for diagnosing a crash report. This is supposed to be a development tool, not an adverti…
Have you used crashlytics before? I use it in production with an app that has >50K users. It shows you the exact lines, and break down where it happens. What you showed isn't even important.
So they support DWARF and backtraces. Just like everyone else.
> What you showed isn't even important.
Yes, exactly.
Re: Twitter acquires Crashlytics
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you used crashlytics before? I use it in production with an app that has >50K users. It shows you the exact lines, and break down where it happens. What you showed isn't even important.
> It shows you the exact lines, and break down where it happens. So they support DWARF and backtraces. Just like everyone else. > What you showed isn't even important. Yes, exactly.
Re: Twitter acquires Crashlytics
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Crashlytics has literally changed the game with regards to crash reporting. Their UI and customer service has been wonderful (unlike most other mobile service providers...) and I really hope they continue to offer their services to devs.
They're very big on polish and claiming to be awesome, but it's all smoke and mirrors and gamesmanship. Drill down on a crash for example: https://d1f4seebrc9wq7.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-content/upload... All the information provided at the top is done with great attention to beautifully rendered icons, and it's all totally useless for diagnosing a crash report. This is supposed to be a development tool, not an adverti…
The reason I ended up going with them is that they are 1) The library is tiny and isn't bloated with things I don't need 2) It's integration with Jenkins is great. It automatically uploads my dsym with the correct build number and all crashes from that build get tagged with that build number. 4) Support is fast 5) Love supporting a local Boston company
I will say that some of their design is a little over the top, they certainly love skeuomorphism. One thing that kind of annoys me about their site is that the content is a fixed width. This is frustrating because they add "..." to shorten some labels to fit instead of using all the screen real-estate available.
Re: Twitter acquires Crashlytics
#30(1) Need them in house. Many larger companies have been contracting their app development to ISVs. Some ISVs have been quietly purchased by their largest customers, as mobile has become more "core". Crashlytics was a toolmaker that Twitter and some others used. Perhaps, Twitter thought these tools were "core", or too important to not have as part of their org.
I'd argue this isn't the primary motivator. Twitter could have benefited, and would arguably benefit more, if Crashlytics continued their mission external to Twitter as a straight crash diagnostic solution. If Twitter asked for something cool, Crashlytic would generally jump at the chance to deliver the functionality [w/ no acquistion]. From Crashlytic's perspective, assuming they ran a tight/"well attended" acquisition process, I would hypothesize a higher value from some one like Google (for dev tool for all their publishers + #3 upside + compliment to GA), and/or someone like NetDynamics/NewRelic/EMC. The APM people will eventually see the light, realizing they, too, can't afford NOT to have a mobile offering to their product offering (Facebook is to Instagram as …)
(2) Talent. Crashlytics has always had a competency in UI/UX + hardcore mobile engineering. Remember, they are toolmakers, the hard core of the hard core. These skills would be valuable to any company with a significant mobile presence. The UI/UX talent would benefit anyone.
Given the probable purchase price, anchored by their last round of funding (~$5-6M), pure talent motivations are unlikely due to investor return expectations driving high PP. If competitors had so drastically reduced Crashlytics ability to grow into a standalone business, then this might be a possibility. Even then, there are organizations who they could find to more highly value their particular skillets / current product *
(3) Re-purpose / Trojan horse. Since Crashlytics solution installs an agent inside someone's else app, you can begin delivering all types of services + collect all kinds of interesting info as part of a bundled offering: - (3A) Event logging. Call this the Flurry/GoogleAnalytics play. Every time an instrumented app does something, speaks to the outside world, or most likely, a user takes a certain set of actions, the SDK can report to the mothership. This is particularly useful if you're looking to add tracking across Twitter properties (app, web, etc) and other apps. - (3B) Social plumbing. Twitter might lost-lead this (give it a way for free) to make adding twitter functionality into any app very easy. - (3C) Mobile infrastructure wedge. Secure a relationship with app developers, and do something more beneficial with those relationships than just selling them tooling. Burstly/Testflight is a good example, so is Flurry with advertising. - (3D) Other. God only knows.
3A/3B/3C are a very likely. The "universal cookie" is the holly grail for advertising platforms, and no one has figured it out yet. I would argue Google is better situated to take this role (given control over ad network +leading mobile OS), but can't fault Twitter for trying. You could argue they are making the advertising platform move. If this is the move, they run the risk of alienating their relationships / running a cat/mouse game with the mobile OS platform owners
------------------------------------ So in summary, I'm going with mostly #3, with 1 & 2 as a secondary motivator. Whichever is the case, I'd keep a close eye on their ToS (the hips don't lie). #3 is scary every which way, for both consumers and app dev's. #3 is aggressive, and loaded with cat/mouse games from existing platforms. #3 is thinking big.
How does this play for the remaining players in the space? Either very good or very bad for Crittercism, uTest's Apphance, and Bugsense.
- Bad. There was always a high probability of mobile crash reporting becoming commoditized, and/or becoming a lost-leader for something else. I highly doubt Crashlyitcs is going to remain Twitter's gift to the mobile engineering organizations of the world (a 2nd Bootstrap of sorts)?
- Good. Competitors lost a very credible competitor today. The information and access Twitter would gain via an embedded monitoring agent inside lots of popular apps is very interesting. For example, Twitter would know coveted metrics like real-time MAU #'s for any app using Crashlytics SDK. There's a hypothesis that companies will pay for tooling, especially if they know and can control how the data will be used. This is only magnified, if the new owner has large incentives to misuse that information. ------------------------------------
[I was an early employee at a competitor. I left to join a new startup ~5 months ago]