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Mac is Linux done right

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Re: Mac is Linux done right

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TFA is nothing more than an uninformative list of Mac apps. Also, someone should tell the author Mac is not Linux.

Yes, it's "Linux done right".

"Y is X done right" is a common idiom. It doesn't imply that Y is a variant of X.

E.g in the case he means OS X is a unix-clone (actually a fully certified UNIX) that has made the right choices, Desktop wise, unlike Linux.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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The article talks about a bunch of software the user installed, but doesn't say much about why "mac" is "linux" done right. Perhaps many of the author's problems would be fixed just by changing to a different Linux distribution. Or even tweaking the previous Linux. I don't know, because none of the broken things are described.

I feel sorry for the BSD folks, being seen as some variant of Linux.

There are lots of things I really like about OS X. (I'm on Snow Leopard.) There are some things I find really frustrating and annoying. Usually these are because of my ignorance. (And they're usually GUI weirdnesses, not BSD weirdnesses.)

It's made me start thinking of using BSD as a desktop - which for my use cases is perhaps a bit dumb.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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"Linux"? If only there were some name you could call all those systems with shells and things. (And within that spectrum, from a all-over system perspective, i.e. not just GUI frippery, I'd rate OS X at about the same level as HP/UX. Maybe.)

Having a Desktop that works 99% of the time, and isn't made by amateur hour volunteers that either let things stagnate for ages (GTK+), or change their ideas every second month (from UI direction to media framework), is not "GUI frippery". Except if you spend all your time buried in the command line to begin with. The only bad things about OS X are due to the proprietary and closed nature of some of the components (a…

As a MBP owner, I'm hard pressed to find anything more frustrating to use than the OSX Finder.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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why such article gets so much up votes? 90% of the apps he is referring to are working on "linux" the same way...

Linux is just the Kernel... and Mac isen't an OS too...

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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post #2

Well, I've tried developing on a mac and deploying to linux. Never again.

What was your tech stack? What problems did you run into? I'm surprised, because I imagine that's how a big fraction of developers here on HN work, and I've very rarely heard that complaint before.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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Mac OS is POSIX compliant and has a terminal. That's pretty much where the comparison ends.

Blah blah blah freedom blah blah. That aside, the Mac desktop doesn't really do it for me. Mac OS and Windows look awfully nice, but so does Unity (which I also don't use). The best desktop, IMHO, is no desktop: tiling window managers give a pretty serious edge for any info-junky willing to climb the hill.

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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"Linux"? If only there were some name you could call all those systems with shells and things. (And within that spectrum, from a all-over system perspective, i.e. not just GUI frippery, I'd rate OS X at about the same level as HP/UX. Maybe.)

I think he's saying that he replaced Ubuntu 12.04 with OS X. Now he's using the same software, but the command-line tools have fewer features and it costs more money. (VLC, Transmission, Chrome + Flash, etc. all work fine on Linux. If you must use Safari, though, OS X is probably the platform of choice. Also, if you have "minimalism concerns" you probably have some goal other than using your computer to be maximally…

>I think he's saying that he replaced Ubuntu 12.04 with OS X. Now he's using the same software, but the command-line tools have fewer features and it costs more money.

Right, because all you use your desktop computer for is command-line tools.

Or because using Brew, MacPorts et al to upgrade all command-line tools (if one wants, since most of the newer "features" are things you'd use once in a blue moon if you're lucky anyway) is very difficult.

(Not to mention that lots of people don't do any work on their Desktop/Laptop's command line itself anyway, even in Linux, but in some remote system or a virtual machine...)

>Also, if you have "minimalism concerns" you probably have some goal other than using your computer to be maximally productive.

Except if, crazy I know, this "minimalist" thing actually helps you with being maximally productive, instead of being some guy spending his days tinkering with insignificant stuff and getting various bits to work together deluding himself he is achieving something...

>If you must use Safari, though, OS X is probably the platform of choice.

Or if you also want multimedia to work as GOD intended or do any work with them. Or if you want to run essential for tons of people proprietary applications not available for Linux, from the Creative Suite to Autocad to whatever...

Re: Mac is Linux done right

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post #4

"Linux"? If only there were some name you could call all those systems with shells and things. (And within that spectrum, from a all-over system perspective, i.e. not just GUI frippery, I'd rate OS X at about the same level as HP/UX. Maybe.)

I think he's saying that he replaced Ubuntu 12.04 with OS X. Now he's using the same software, but the command-line tools have fewer features and it costs more money. (VLC, Transmission, Chrome + Flash, etc. all work fine on Linux. If you must use Safari, though, OS X is probably the platform of choice. Also, if you have "minimalism concerns" you probably have some goal other than using your computer to be maximally…

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