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Is University Necessary? A professor debates a student.

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Re: Is University Necessary? A professor debates a student.

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post #2

I wrote the counterpoint, and although I really respect Professor Holloway's point, I really think his argument is stuck too much in the past.

I read your counterpoint, and thought it was less coherently structured and argued than Holloway's. I think your argument may be stuck too much in an idealised present/future.

Quick question, have you gone to university?

Re: Is University Necessary? A professor debates a student.

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post #4

As a college student, I'm always torn about whether or not it is worth it to get my CS degree. Sometimes, my classes seem really useless, but at other times, I feel like I'm learning a lot socially at college.

At least 95% of the time, you'll be better served by finishing the degree. It's a low-risk high-reward choice. Unless you have a huge appetite for risk, I don't see the upside in dropping out. Work on your startup while you're in school, it's not like homework should be taking up a significant portion of your time (if you're really good enough to be dropping out anyway).

Re: Is University Necessary? A professor debates a student.

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're young and ignorant, you should stay and school and gain perspective before moving to the real world.

I think you made an ad hominem attack and your concept of the real world is aged and out-of-touch.

I think it's an ad hominem attack only when the character assertions bear no relation to the argument at hand. In this case, for him to call the OP young and ignorant is perfectly relevant, the implication being that he only dismisses higher education because he is not experienced enough to realise the value of it.

Re: Is University Necessary? A professor debates a student.

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post #2

I wrote the counterpoint, and although I really respect Professor Holloway's point, I really think his argument is stuck too much in the past.

I read your counterpoint, and thought it was less coherently structured and argued than Holloway's. I think your argument may be stuck too much in an idealised present/future. Quick question, have you gone to university?

From the OP: "Counterpoint author: David Fontenot is a serial hackathoner and director of MHacks Hackathon from South Florida. He is studying Computer Science Engineering in his Sophomore year at the University of Michigan."

Re: Is University Necessary? A professor debates a student.

#30
It's really not that hard. The branching logic is simple.

If you have a better, actual alternative to university, do that. Else, do university, which is an established default for those who can afford it.

If you can't afford it, the debate isn't even relevant.

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