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What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the sense of "the democratic party is using technology to their advantage" or "the democratic party is moving the tech industry into their political machine"?

I'm not sure what it would mean for them to move the tech industry into their political machine. Could you clarify?

I assume he means having the more appealing political platform to hypothetical Tech Industry employees ie. young, urban and college educated.

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the sense of "the democratic party is using technology to their advantage" or "the democratic party is moving the tech industry into their political machine"?

I'm not sure what it would mean for them to move the tech industry into their political machine. Could you clarify?

For them I think it would mean that they could generate SOPA level pressure on lawmakers.

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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It seems more likely that this was an Obama campaign advantage, rather than a Democratic party advantage. The translation over isn't obvious. From what I've heard their internal organization was pretty fluid. That kind of thing depends on the quality of people involved, their commonality of purpose, and the organizational culture. You can't box that and roll it over to party HQ. That said, Democrats do seem more like…

I agree pretty strongly. I read, for example, that the Obama campaign expanded the Democratic Party's voter database by something like a factor of 10.

I'm not entirely sure that's the case. The DNC voterfile is compiled primarily from public record requests, and is as complete this cycle as it was in any other.

Narwhal and other OFA DBs may have supplemental information -- as do the "blue" vendors -- but that's separate from the voterfile, and I'm not sure its life-cycle is certain at this point.

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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I think that what they accomplished is amazing, but remember that their goals were very different than your typical business. Their goals were to create something in a short amount of time with a really random group of people given a fairly short lifetime. The individual projects will live on, but the whole thing was shut down at the end of the campaign. A business is about sustainability. You are creating things tha…

> In that given, its not unusual that you want all of your employees to be able to work on various parts of the stack as focus changes or what not. Isn't it? I'm a frontend dev. While I'm capable of digging into the backend and mucking around, it's not a typical part of my job. There are backend devs who I can talk to, who are writing Scala or Java rather than Javascript or Ruby, who can deal with problems faster and…

In that sense, Reed's team was like a startup: everyone had to be ultra-capable because they had to pick up anyone's slack at any time

It's important to note that in this sense, "polyglot" refers to the collective group -- ie, the Obama campaign had numerous talented people with a huge variety of skills in-house -- vs the individual sense of the word.

Not to say that there weren't incredibly talented generalists, but when you have a team of this size (dozens of designers and front-end developers, engineers focused on the back-end APIs, a team dedicated to data integration, a handful of dedicated ops and DBAs) the ability of individuals to specialize in an area could be a strength.

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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Like it or not, the democratic party owns technology compared to republicans today.

In the sense of "the democratic party is using technology to their advantage" or "the democratic party is moving the tech industry into their political machine"?

Based on this article and those about the failure the Romney campaign's get-out-the-vote tool, "Orca" [0] my reaction is that one campaign built usable tech over time, and the other tried to purchase it on deadline.

One system was diverse and cooperative; the other isolated, secretive, and ultimately a failure.

I'll agree that a GOTV tool is only one part of campaign IT, but I think there's a lesson waiting here.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCA_%28computer_system%29

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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This sounds insightful but really isn't. It's the Republicans who want the most change right now. It's change in a direction most of us disagree with, but it's far more radical than the Democratic agenda. The reality is that if there's a tech advantage held by the Dems, it's the product of much simpler demographics; youth, urban, educated.

It's not called "change" when it goes backwards in time.

I think you need you consult your dictionary.

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds insightful but really isn't. It's the Republicans who want the most change right now. It's change in a direction most of us disagree with, but it's far more radical than the Democratic agenda. The reality is that if there's a tech advantage held by the Dems, it's the product of much simpler demographics; youth, urban, educated.

I do think the democrats have a technological advantage in this case, but it is far less solid than it may appear at first. For simple demographic reasons the republicans cannot continue to focus on the old white anti homosexual segment of the population, since there aren't enough of them left to form a majority (projections suggest that Texas may turn blue by 2020, perhaps even 2016, if Texas turns blue then the Rep…

The interesting problem of the republicans is, that they have to focus on the far right. If they focus on anyone else, then they will loose the current core voters and will loose more votes than they actually can get from anywhere else in the short term.

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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> 4Gb/s, 10k requests per second, 2,000 nodes, 3 datacenters, 180TB and 8.5 billion requests. Design, deploy, dismantle in 583 days to elect the President. #madops – Scott VanDenPlas, Obama for America IT team

That's impressive. Glad that tech is on the Democratic side.

But then again change, liberalism, progress, technology and innovation are all leftist tenets - so it isn't so surprising.

Here's hoping to another tech assisted Republican defeat in 2016. May the morons stay out of power - least they screw us all once again.

Re: What the Obama IT team teaches us about polyglot programming

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I think that what they accomplished is amazing, but remember that their goals were very different than your typical business. Their goals were to create something in a short amount of time with a really random group of people given a fairly short lifetime. The individual projects will live on, but the whole thing was shut down at the end of the campaign. A business is about sustainability. You are creating things tha…

I think there is a difference in terms of having fullstack developers versus polyglot developers or a polyglot team. To me, and it seems like in this article, polyglot means using various comparable languages that operate at the same or overlapping parts of the stack - so not Ruby versus Node.js, but Ruby versus PHP.
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