Lol, this is hilarious.
This is basically Palm OS Graffiti, brought back from the dead and celebrated like innovation.
Heck, even the Apple Newton had it before the Palm OS.
8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices
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Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices
#22Overview video since site is down:
Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices
#23I remember using this when Swype was just new. It is very unwieldy and I tried it for a week or two of heavy frustration. The Gesture swiping built into 4.2 is hard to beat. Between the fast two handed operation with good correction and the freaky fast voice transcription, it's hard to want to deviate from the stock keyboard. Honestly, the demo video makes it look painfully slow, even when he's doing a full demo sent…
I've been using gesture typing and regular typing on my phone and my tablet. The muscle memory from one has flown into the other quite nicely. However, something like this would require me to relearn how I type altogether.
Something that, as someone who uses their phone and tablet for valuable emails all the time, I don't have time for.
Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices
#24This appears to be a variant of a technique known in the research literature as Quikwriting [1] (a type of FlowMenu [2]), which you can still try online [3]. There hasn't been much in the way of evaluation of Quickwriting, but one study found people's initial performance was around 4WPM, increasing to 16WPM after five hours of practice [4].
I haven't used 8pen's implementation (so I don't know how their version differs), but I imagine it has a similarly steep learning curve.
[1] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=288613 [2] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=354401.354778 [3] http://www.mrl.nyu.edu/perlin/demos/quikwriting.html [4] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1028014.1028031
Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices
#25Lol, this is hilarious. This is basically Palm OS Graffiti, brought back from the dead and celebrated like innovation. Heck, even the Apple Newton had it before the Palm OS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29
Did we watch the same video, or am I missing how this is terribly similar to Graffiti?
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#26I actually forced myself to learn to use this. It seemed cool, and potentially very powerful, so I used it exclusively for 6 months on my phone. I got to the point where it was completely coded into muscle memory, I can still type on it without the letters displayed. While it feels really cool when you are using it, there are some pretty fatal flaws. First off, even when you are going full tilt, it is slower than usi…
I also used it extensively. There are options to make the center spot much smaller that make it far easier to type with.
Also, my major complaint (and the reason I use Swiftkey now) is simply that the built in dictionary is simply not good enough at predicting N-gram sentences that I use often. There are times on swiftkey where I just tap the middle suggestion to write a sentence (although perhaps that's more revealing about my low-entropy text messaging habits than anything)
Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices
#27Lol, this is hilarious. This is basically Palm OS Graffiti, brought back from the dead and celebrated like innovation. Heck, even the Apple Newton had it before the Palm OS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29
Did we watch the same video, or am I missing how this is terribly similar to Graffiti?
I agree with the graffiti comparison. I think Graffiti is preferable, also, because its characters seem to be faster to draw than the 8pen (to this day, I still write my capital Es like I'm using my Palm Zire).
Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices
#28Lol, this is hilarious. This is basically Palm OS Graffiti, brought back from the dead and celebrated like innovation. Heck, even the Apple Newton had it before the Palm OS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29
Did we watch the same video, or am I missing how this is terribly similar to Graffiti?
Lol.. Not sure who downvoted, but the act of writing letters on the bottom of the screen to type it in for you = Grafitti.
It may be possible that the trees (not handwriting) are being missed for the forest (writing at the bottom of a touch screen) is nothing new.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did we watch the same video, or am I missing how this is terribly similar to Graffiti?
I agree with the graffiti comparison. I think Graffiti is preferable, also, because its characters seem to be faster to draw than the 8pen (to this day, I still write my capital Es like I'm using my Palm Zire).
Haha, I thought I was the only one who accidentally writes letters Grafitti style.
I was the worst at writing k's and x's weird.
At the time it was the fastest way to enter data, until the Treos and the original touchscreen/physical keyboard combos came out.
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#30Tutorial video and app download at this address: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eightpen.a... Definitely won't take the place still in my heart for Graffiti ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) ).
Still write some letters accidentally in Grafitti sometimes.
When I got my Galaxy note and tried out writing with the stylus -- it was hard to write normal english, grafitti kept on coming out