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Re: I hate the news

#21

Wow, great find. Thank you for sharing. This is why I love Hacker News, one of the best things on the front page right now! Something that takes me outside my comfort zone and makes me think. These past two days have been some of Hacker News' best.

Are you being satirical?

Most likely, and I share the sentiment. I wouldn't mind having, say, the first thread on this story pinned for a week as the top post to let everyone grieve, protest, vent, ramble and whatnot. Filling up the HN front page for two days in a row though is just too much though and may lead to desensitization.

Re: I hate the news

#22
I haven't watched television for like 10 years now and I only spend time on news sites. But recently I realised how much time I just waste on the news instead and how little I gain.

I could have learned more about python or read a good book about an important subject. News is like junkfood for the mind. Very short topics that are not relevant to my life.

Sometimes I read articles about rape or other injustice and those topics just infuriate me, but I'm totally powerless. News exhaust me.

It has no value for me whatsoever. I can't recall that I ever made any important decision based on it.

This article is so true. When journalist write about a topic you know a lot about, there are often so many errors, that you wonder how many errors there are in topics you don't know about.

If you read the news as a hobby, sure, be my guest. But that's something else.

Re: I hate the news

#23
post #6

I completely disagree with Aaron, but I respect his opinion. Reading the news is incredibly important, and it shapes your understanding of culture and circumstances outside your social bubble, which in turn affects your future social interactions.

Does the news actually do that though? Does regularly and generally consuming the news do more than provide new topics for water cooler chat? I can understand the argument for being informed through selective reading/viewing (which the article makes), but not so much for being generally informed.

Re: I hate the news

#24
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you. It feels this defense is akin to saying, "Why bother reading history, it has nothing to do with me"

Did you read the whole article? "With the time people waste reading a newspaper every day, they could have read an entire book about most subjects covered and thereby learned about it with far more detail and far more impact than the daily doses they get dribbled out by the paper. But people, of course, wouldn’t read a book about most subjects covered in the paper, because most of them are simply irrelevant."

Events typically don't become book material until several years after they occur. You might say that by the time you read about an event in a book, it is already history.

News coverage is more immediate. And while 95% of all news is useless bullshit, there is still stuff in there that is useful and relevant for shaping one's understanding of the current times.

Re: I hate the news

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post #13

I live in Israel, where if you start your day by reading the news, you will fall into a depression that, if lucky, will last until you fall asleep.

I live in the UK and feel the same way, except now I feel a bit guilty about it...

Re: I hate the news

#26
related, possibly of interest:

[1] R. Dobelli. Avoid News. Aug 2010. --> http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Par...

[2] C. A. Johnson. The Information Diet: A Case for Conscious Consumption. O’Reilly, 2012.

i myself am conflicted about the news. i agree with most of the negative points both by OP and the above; but i also feel i actually do learn something from the news, esp. as i have a relatively organized note-taking system, file and reference articles above a certain threshold of interest in bibdesk, etc.

i think the reason i learn something is that i take the 5 secs to take a screenshot or copy-paste the relevant snippets of information in my system. over time, you can see interesting patterns. sometimes, i run across a reference to some other, deeper source of information (presumably the background material the high-level news article was based on), and file a to-do to check it out in my task manager. usually i wouldn't have thought of this source or reference if i hadn't seen it cited in the news. last but not least, just scanning the headlines and summaries can give you a sense of what the hivemind of "the market" (or "the public") is preoccupied with at the moment.

so, at least to me, it's not all bad and yet i agree that it often feels like a waste of time and mental energy. i haven't figured out a solution yet but completely quitting the news is not going to cut it for me.

Re: I hate the news

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post #17

"I think following the news is a waste of time." I'm sure this plaid a role in him being so productive. But I do think its my obligation to read the news. Even if it makes me less productive. Without the news I would have never learned about Aarons hack and his trial. Of course, just knowing the news is not enough. One has to act. In the case of Aaron, we didn't act.

Maybe it is a question of what one considers news. I found out through HN, which I don't consider to be "news" in the sense portrayed by the post.

I don't think that it's a matter of productivity. I don;t read news because it presents me with a bunch of inactionable information-- I can't -do- anything about any of the stories that I read in the news and so there's no use building up impotent rage about those things.

Re: I hate the news

#28
I think it's important to look at some events as they unfold, vs. in retrospect, even if only to train yourself.

Pick a historical event (say, the assassination which kicked off WW1). Read news in chronological order, as it came out. See how different things seem at any point in time vs. how they look retrospectively a century later.

Re: I hate the news

#29
post #6

I completely disagree with Aaron, but I respect his opinion. Reading the news is incredibly important, and it shapes your understanding of culture and circumstances outside your social bubble, which in turn affects your future social interactions.

Maybe opinion pieces do. The news, I'm not so sure.

Re: I hate the news

#30
post #6

I completely disagree with Aaron, but I respect his opinion. Reading the news is incredibly important, and it shapes your understanding of culture and circumstances outside your social bubble, which in turn affects your future social interactions.

Does the news actually do that though? Does regularly and generally consuming the news do more than provide new topics for water cooler chat? I can understand the argument for being informed through selective reading/viewing (which the article makes), but not so much for being generally informed.

I think it does do more. It ads another degree of accountability to people with power. It might not be much, but it's something. One small anecdote; a development in a local suburb is hitting a brick wall because the media has revealed a relationship between the developer and the council. That development was going up on public land without proper oversight or tender.

Couple of bigger anecdotes;

- Watergate. A president's criminal behaviour was dug up by a newspaper, forcing him to resign.

- Vietnam war coverage forced the US to reconsider their attitudes to weapons with high collateral damage, conscription and large scale land wars in general.

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