How does this affect non-US companies? I guess the DUNS rule only apply if you're incorporated in the US
DUNS is a private company, Apple and the US Government are subscribers to their data.
Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
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Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#22in several (european?) countries, incorporated businesses automatically are assigned a DUNS number by D&B. head to http://www.upik.de/en/upik_suche.cgi and search for your company before requesting a number. surely enough, all of my companies already had one, even the one incorporated two weeks ago.
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#23I think this is very good news: it could mean that Apple ran out of ways to torment developers and brought in a third party to fill the gap. Personally I would have opted for forcing new developers to cross-validate each other's documentation after translating it into Esperanto.
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#24at what point do people decide that the apple app store is not worth developing for? the early gold-rush days have passed, so there's not even the lure of making loads of money from a minimum-effort app, and from what i hear the store is now so crowded, and the search and sort tools so bad that even getting your app noticed is a struggle - so why continue to deal with apple's abusive hoops and requirements?
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#25For companies in the UK finding your DUNS number can be real pain, so for the record you can actually look it up yourself for free, with no wait: http://blog.thomseddon.co.uk/find-your-d-u-n-s-number-if-you... And the TL;DR: http://www.dnb.co.uk/myduns
Thanks for this! Took 5 minutes and they mailed my number back immediately. Any idea why it's free in the UK?
You could probably submit a request under the Data Protection Act to force them to reveal it anyway, so it makes sense for them to just have a web form...
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#26in several (european?) countries, incorporated businesses automatically are assigned a DUNS number by D&B. head to http://www.upik.de/en/upik_suche.cgi and search for your company before requesting a number. surely enough, all of my companies already had one, even the one incorporated two weeks ago.
Great tip. I couldn't find it through D&B's own website (the search result found our companies but only tried to sell me shit), but apparently we have DUNS numbers without ever applying for it.
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#27in several (european?) countries, incorporated businesses automatically are assigned a DUNS number by D&B. head to http://www.upik.de/en/upik_suche.cgi and search for your company before requesting a number. surely enough, all of my companies already had one, even the one incorporated two weeks ago.
Oh interesting, turns out my company already has one too.
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#28I'll have to wait 60 working days for the DUNS number. My app got finished in october, we only managed to get all documents D&B asks in november.
Right now, it takes at least 4 months for non-US companies to put an app in the app store. This is ridiculous, immoral.
Relevant http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4977889
I took this to local authorities, but they are not willing to act on this yet.
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#29I received my number within a week for free without hassle, but I applied some years ago. After that, I received continued phone calls on the registered phone number from companies claiming to have some association with DUNS. This continued to the point that we actually changed the company phone number to avoid these people. We left the old number working for a while, and the only calls were DUNS spam. After we dropp…
Registering a business name seems to have much the same effect, so I'm not sure it's merely DUNS.
Similarly my wife at some point had to register some kind of entity to get reimbursed for speaking at a conference and immediately unleashed a torrent of spam. (Correction — my wife's torrent of spam was from DUNS :-)). But hey, mine was just a normal business name registration, and i got the same result.
The US is plagued with cold-calling spammers — just part of the American Experience.
Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that
#30I received my number within a week for free without hassle, but I applied some years ago. After that, I received continued phone calls on the registered phone number from companies claiming to have some association with DUNS. This continued to the point that we actually changed the company phone number to avoid these people. We left the old number working for a while, and the only calls were DUNS spam. After we dropp…
Registering a business name seems to have much the same effect, so I'm not sure it's merely DUNS. Similarly my wife at some point had to register some kind of entity to get reimbursed for speaking at a conference and immediately unleashed a torrent of spam. (Correction — my wife's torrent of spam was from DUNS :-)). But hey, mine was just a normal business name registration, and i got the same result. The US is plagu…
I'm not in the US, I'm in the UK. Cold calling is against the law to TPS registered phone numbers and very rarely happens.
DUNS is the main exception in the time I've been in business.