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Re: The killer iOS feature Apple will never add

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Post by chrisringrose » Fri, Dec 28, 2012, 6:27 AM UTC

This isn't an issue of Android being more "open". Google baked-in one-sign in features into Android, sure, just as Apple did with iCloud. But you can't do this for other 3rd party apps on Android. You can't sign in on one app, and continue being signed in on another app (at least not in the way that you complain Apple should allow).

I do like your idea, and agree Apple should allow this. They should also allow changing the default applications, and allow better access to internet APIs, so Mozilla can actually make Firefox for iOS. But that aside, what you're complaining about isn't something Google does either

Re: The killer iOS feature Apple will never add

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 28, 2012, 8:04 AM UTC

beatgammit wrote: post #15

sbuk wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do I. The issue for me is one of trust. I simply do not trust Google with my personal information. It's how they make their money, which is why I don't trust them.

So why do you chose iCloud? It's clearly for lock-in. AFAIK, you can't get iCloud on anything except Apple devices. Sure, iCloud v2 is supposed to work, but it's apparently not the same: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/icloud-for-windows-2-0-... Google Drive, OTOH, works on Windows/Mac OSX/Android/iOS (and probably WP7, Windows 8, Blackberry, etc, but I haven't done my homework). Dropbox is another option. Perso…

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Re: The killer iOS feature Apple will never add

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Post by sbuk » Fri, Dec 28, 2012, 8:15 AM UTC

tekromancr wrote: post #14

sbuk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive me fo veering off topic, but "power users" is such a horrible notion. It just makes me think of douchey know-it-alls with massively over inflated entitlement glands - especially those that consider themselves to be "power users". Again, apologies, I just really dislike the expression "power user" and I'm seeing it way too much on here lately.

I don't think it is douchey at all. 99% of people using these devices don't give a flying monkey fuck about replacing default apps. There is a very small segment of the population that uses all of the features of a device. Also, "Power User" is not a new term by a long shot.

I never said it was a new term, and I've always has a dislike for it, especially as it's use has evolved. It's gone from meaning sub-administrator to self-asserted expert user. The issue I have with the expression is more with those who consider themselves "power users", as in my experience it goes hand in hand with condescension and arrogance, an "I know best" attitude if you will.

Re: The killer iOS feature Apple will never add

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Post by sbuk » Fri, Dec 28, 2012, 8:19 AM UTC

beatgammit wrote: post #15

sbuk wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do I. The issue for me is one of trust. I simply do not trust Google with my personal information. It's how they make their money, which is why I don't trust them.

So why do you chose iCloud? It's clearly for lock-in. AFAIK, you can't get iCloud on anything except Apple devices. Sure, iCloud v2 is supposed to work, but it's apparently not the same: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/09/icloud-for-windows-2-0-... Google Drive, OTOH, works on Windows/Mac OSX/Android/iOS (and probably WP7, Windows 8, Blackberry, etc, but I haven't done my homework). Dropbox is another option. Perso…

I do use Dropbox. iCloud, much like Google's services, isn't about one thing. It's a suite of online tools, and it works for me. That's actually the important bit.