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Flock cameras used to arrest a child for playing on a swing?

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Re: Flock cameras used to arrest a child for playing on a swing?

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Post by swader999 »

uberman wrote: post #2

When I was a kid twisting a swing so you could ride it as it untwisted was something that happend dozens of times every recess. This was something every kid did. If your playground equipment falls apart as a result of the standard way kids use a swing then I think that is a manufacture issue not criminal behavior by a 10 year old

Right? Growing up in the eighties we'd twist, stand on them, double up, back flip out of them.

Re: Flock cameras used to arrest a child for playing on a swing?

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Post by DarmokTanagra »

nomagicbullet wrote: post #5

I don't think we understand yet the kind of world we are building. All the small decisions we are making will shape our future: algorithmic decision making, social network broadcasting and "self-reporting", light-speed meme transmission, always-on audio and video surveillance... the list goes on and on. One day we'll wake up to see we've build a jail around us we can't escape.

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Re: Flock cameras used to arrest a child for playing on a swing?

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Post by aspbee555 »

How much money did they waste in police and court resources over a swing obviously in disrepair if it broke so easily? How much resources/money did they waste having someone create invoices for numerous children/families? How much resources/money did they waste on harassing/tormenting children and their families instead of just fixing the damn thing?

So nice to see such enormous time and resources being spent on catching actual criminals

Re: Flock cameras used to arrest a child for playing on a swing?

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Post by kraken_cult »

chneu wrote: post #19
nomagicbullet wrote: post #5

I don't think we understand yet the kind of world we are building. All the small decisions we are making will shape our future: algorithmic decision making, social network broadcasting and "self-reporting", light-speed meme transmission, always-on audio and video surveillance... the list goes on and on. One day we'll wake up to see we've build a jail around us we can't escape.

The consumer chooses convenience for skill/knowledge and then complains about the outcome of their choice. It's wild.

It'S ThEiR FaUlT, I'M juSt MaKinG mOneY. Is such a lame excuse. A real engineer knows ethical boundaries. Get lost.

Re: Flock cameras used to arrest a child for playing on a swing?

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Post by demosthanos »

demibabs wrote: post #20

As much as I dislike flock, this only seems like an indictment on the police.

Surveillance cameras (not Flock, sounds like) are what allowed the police to spend ridiculous amounts of the city's time chasing (checks notes) $295 of damage to a swing from totally normal use by a couple of pre-teens.

Swings have always broken. Before widespread surveillance the swing would have just been replaced or not and everyone would have moved on.

Re: Flock cameras used to arrest a child for playing on a swing?

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Post by jolmg »

> They tell me in a lengthy statement in part that the department would never issue an ultimatum of pay for the damage or your children will be charged. They tell me quote, "We simply don't operate that way." Rather, the department's approach was consistent among the five juveniles involved in the incident. The damage was divided equally and an opportunity was provided to address the matter through restitution rather than unnecessarily continuing juvenile proceeding.

Lol. The same thing, but obfuscated. It's not "pay for the damage"; it's "an opportunity was provided to address the matter through restitution". It's not "or your children will be charged"; it's "rather than unnecessarily continuing juvenile proceeding". Add extra fluff at the start to bury the lede, then avoid the trigger words and pretend it's something different.

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