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Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route
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#22Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
The BBC only assumes government sources as truth when it's from the crown or Israeli / US governments
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#23Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
This is completely standard journalistic practice when reporting a quote on something that is currently contentious or unproven. For example, consider the two hypothetical headlines:
Activists decry police murder of protester
Activists decry police "murder" of protester
The first implies that the police murdering the protestor is an established fact. The second makes it clear that it is the activists who used the term "murder" rather than it being a non-contentious fact.
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#24Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
When I moved from the US to the UK, the use of quotation marks in news headlines was something that confused me. In the US, these would be "scare quote", with the quotation marks basically standing in for the words "so-called". In the UK, that is NOT their meaning. The quotation marks mean "we are not ourselves in a position to verify this, but it is the words that a source has told us". Very different meaning -- and…
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#25Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
This is completely standard journalistic practice when reporting a quote on something that is currently contentious or unproven. For example, consider the two hypothetical headlines: Activists decry police murder of protester Activists decry police "murder" of protester The first implies that the police murdering the protestor is an established fact. The second makes it clear that it is the activists who used the ter…
In that case, that seems like a variation of the "past exonerative tense".
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#26Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
When I moved from the US to the UK, the use of quotation marks in news headlines was something that confused me. In the US, these would be "scare quote", with the quotation marks basically standing in for the words "so-called". In the UK, that is NOT their meaning. The quotation marks mean "we are not ourselves in a position to verify this, but it is the words that a source has told us". Very different meaning -- and…
This is like this in most of Europe: when in "quotes", it is not the journalist, but the person who said something. For example, Obama said "Yes we can". He did not say yes we can, he said "Yes we can".
It is not about the quotes being verified or unverified. It is about something said by somebody, that you are reporting.
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#27Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
It's because they been taken to court for mindlessly parroting shit they hear, but instead of actually verifying the truth of the claim (ya know, the entire purpose of a journalist) they just put it in quotes as some kind of "buyer beware" disclaimer
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#28Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
When I moved from the US to the UK, the use of quotation marks in news headlines was something that confused me. In the US, these would be "scare quote", with the quotation marks basically standing in for the words "so-called". In the UK, that is NOT their meaning. The quotation marks mean "we are not ourselves in a position to verify this, but it is the words that a source has told us". Very different meaning -- and…
Is it really a different meaning? Isn't the implication that they tried, and failed, to independently verify the claim?
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#29Why all the quotation marks in the article? It's not like they interviewed toddlers that said funny things.
When I moved from the US to the UK, the use of quotation marks in news headlines was something that confused me. In the US, these would be "scare quote", with the quotation marks basically standing in for the words "so-called". In the UK, that is NOT their meaning. The quotation marks mean "we are not ourselves in a position to verify this, but it is the words that a source has told us". Very different meaning -- and…
Does “so-called” not mean “words that someone has told us”?
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is real news. They just captured a bunch of modern Saudi-supplied equipment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThW3uz62XvI
Yes, I know its real news. I am speaking to the title. It's always "The Houthis did this" or "Houthi-controlled areas do X". They need to just stop promoting alternative facts and call it Yemen.
If, as you desire, we wrote that Yemen captured the island, who did they capture it from? Not-Yemen? That's just confusing for a civil war.