They did with Vision Pro, see how that turned out.
But I will keep saying it, VR is the future.
Apple is no longer thinking different
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#22Apple always been that way, the “apple invented X!” always been a joke, what apple usually does is taking an already existing feature and turns it into an actual useful (mostly) one, not gimmicky, and well integrated with their eco system. That being said, smartphones hit the stagnation point long time ago, it’s really hard to bring an overly new thing besides “better camera, better cpu, better screen”, even batteries aren’t improving anymore.
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#23I was not impressed with how wide the iPhone Duo is when folded closed. The whole idea is supposed to be something like a cell phone that expands to something like an iPad. They basically copied the Samsung Galaxy or similar phones with no real innovation.
The Samsung foldables are an entirely different size and aspect ratio; how is the Duo a copy of something entirely different?
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#24Apple isn't really an innovator, at least in the sense of delivering "new" things. Their success is in assessing a market and refining products for consumer adoption. Mac wasn't the first personal computer but it was well-suited for the mass market, not just "computer people". iPod wasn't the first mp3 player but the first that was easy for regular folks to use. iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, but the first one t…
I think you're right, though you're talking about an old era, where the iPhone was truly revolutionary, but how do you think the Duo is different from the other folds now? the first iPhone was years ahead of its time, but the first Apple foldable is arguably the exact same (if not inferior) to the competition, with the exception of the good user experience we're used to from Apple
It wasn't years ahead of its time. It was nice but the original iPhone was far behind its smartphone competitors in many respects. IIRC:
• No 3G! This made the whole "i" part of the iPhone mostly worthless when not connected to wifi. Other phones had 3G.
• No installable apps. Many argued about whether it was a smartphone at all.
• No copy/paste.
• No multi-tasking.
etc. Probably more I forgot. Its competitors had all of these.
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#25I mean the thing is, I'm finding it quite difficult to pay for Apple products anymore. The new Apple iPhone Duo is a whopping A$3,500 here in Australia! I kid you not. Who has that kind of money to fork out for a god damn phone?! I'm finding it really hard to justify the crap Apple are putting out, which let's face is, is made orders of magnitude cheaper over in China/Taiwan anyway.
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#26I was not impressed with how wide the iPhone Duo is when folded closed. The whole idea is supposed to be something like a cell phone that expands to something like an iPad. They basically copied the Samsung Galaxy or similar phones with no real innovation.
The Samsung foldables are an entirely different size and aspect ratio; how is the Duo a copy of something entirely different?
The Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8, Xiaomi 18 Fold and Huawei Pura X Max all have pretty similar fold aspect ratios to the Duo?
Not sure 'copying' is a clarifying explanation of what is happening though.
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#27I mean the thing is, I'm finding it quite difficult to pay for Apple products anymore. The new Apple iPhone Duo is a whopping A$3,500 here in Australia! I kid you not. Who has that kind of money to fork out for a god damn phone?! I'm finding it really hard to justify the crap Apple are putting out, which let's face is, is made orders of magnitude cheaper over in China/Taiwan anyway.
To be fair, a Galaxy Z Fold8 Ultra costs just as much.
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#28Seems a better question is who do you believe is actually innovating today? Apple has rarely been about providing bleeding edge technology to early adopters. They've always been more concerned with evaluating technology, often building things behind closed doors to explore and iterate, and then only releasing something once they felt it was ready and able to address a defined purpose or need. It's not first to market…
The iphone was bleeding edge... Of you disregard Neonode. But that is the only that comes to mind. The other bleeding edge has been the overall ecosystem around its product.
Re: Apple is no longer thinking different
#29Apple isn't really an innovator, at least in the sense of delivering "new" things. Their success is in assessing a market and refining products for consumer adoption. Mac wasn't the first personal computer but it was well-suited for the mass market, not just "computer people". iPod wasn't the first mp3 player but the first that was easy for regular folks to use. iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, but the first one t…
Yeah the pattern is "regular folks" enjoy reality tv too. Because they don't enjoy thinking. It's obviously trash but there's a market.
I feel the same way about Apple. It's target market is uninformed users. Never purchased anything from them.
Don't even get me started on the closed ecosystem. Admittedly Google/android has been closing in on that front but the initial intentions were good.
Re: Apple is no longer thinking different
#30Seems a better question is who do you believe is actually innovating today? Apple has rarely been about providing bleeding edge technology to early adopters. They've always been more concerned with evaluating technology, often building things behind closed doors to explore and iterate, and then only releasing something once they felt it was ready and able to address a defined purpose or need. It's not first to market…
Yeah, I’ve always thought that looking at the field of glorified prototypes and turning them into things real people actually love to use is, in fact, innovation.
I don’t think the Duo is a great example of that. Maybe it’s a fine product anyway, though?
I do also think their approach to AI is scary brilliant if they can pull it off.
It has the potential to make them the most important AI company in the world, quickly, with none of the exposure to the multi-trillion dollar horserace.
It’s a big “if”, though.