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Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by BeetleB »

RajT88 wrote: post #17
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I (also a lifetime Plex Pass user) decided to try it out ~6 months ago, and I've switched over. I haven't had any gaps in functionality yet, though YMMV of course. While it isn't better than Plex (which is still fine for now), it isn't worse either, and I trust the Jellyfin devs a lot more than the Plex devs at this point.

I must be old school. I never got on board with Plex, because my "lifetime" licenses for PlayOn, TVersity and Twonky all ended up completely useless. Yes, those licenses still work, but you can't get the latest versions which provide support for the latest codecs, features, etc. There's a cutoff on the versions that "lifetime" license allows you to upgrade to, and some of those licenses were not that cheap at the tim…

Yes, eventually, all of them will end up this way. But the attitude lacks nuance. I paid $120 for Plex 8 years ago, and if it becomes utter crap tomorrow, it's been totally worth it.

Don't think of any such thing as "lifetime". Just ask: "For the amount they are charging me, how long does it need to last for it to have been worth my money?" With the price I paid, one year would have been enough.

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by villish »

doctoboggan wrote: post #2

As a long time plex user with a lifetime pass, I always enjoy seeing the good progress with Jellyfin as it will increasingly give me a soft landing for when Plex finally does something to make me move. At the very least it will hopefully keep some of plex’s most user hostile behavior in check. As an aside, I recently started having Claude help me with configuring my *arr stack and it has helped tremendously. I used t…

I like them both, but I can never give up plexamp. I’ve tried navidrome and various jellyfin clients but I keep going back.

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by trog »

noisy_boy wrote: post #11

Subtitles are the Achilles heel of Jellyfin (at least the Android client sending the stream to Chromecast stick connected to the TV). I can see the subtitle present but it doesn't show on the movie. Ok, I will just add manually - can't, progress indicator loops forever. Ok, I will remove the existing subtitles and add - removal succeeds - addition fails. This is the same fiddling everytime. If it works, it is a mirac…

Is that an old problem, or a problem that is still in this new v12?

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by VladVladikoff »

altano wrote: post #16

I hate people who are demanding of open source projects but... doing performance improvements and adding comic book support before making the product secure enough to expose to the internet is wild prioritization and I don't know what else to say. Or release native clients that can use OIDC. Doing neither sucks =[.

Just use Tailscale. It’s always 1 day away from an 0-day anyway.

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by altano »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #24
altano wrote: post #16

I hate people who are demanding of open source projects but... doing performance improvements and adding comic book support before making the product secure enough to expose to the internet is wild prioritization and I don't know what else to say. Or release native clients that can use OIDC. Doing neither sucks =[.

Just use Tailscale. It’s always 1 day away from an 0-day anyway.

You can either require mesh vpn or make it easy for friends to access your library. You can't have both.

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by c0nsumer »

doctoboggan wrote: post #8
firecall wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feels like only a matter of time with Plex doesn't it! I've got the lifetime pass, but it really does feel like a Sword of Damocles situation...

Yes it really does, and I intend to switch eventually but from what I heard the last time I looked into it, the end user clients are a big area where plex still beats Jellyfin. Since that’s where my non technical friends and family mostly interact with the system, it’s the area I need to be the most polished and hands off.

Yes, this is the big one for me. Seemingly unlike a lot of folks, Plex is my main music server. Years ago I ripped all my CDs (1800+, IIRC) and Plex + Plexamp is really, really, really good for listening. I haven't yet found anything else that works as well.

I use Plexamp on desktop/laptop computers and then the Android and iOS apps for on-the-go music. I tried Symfonium [1] because it seemed promising and would give me a Jellyfin path, but it was weird and kinda buggy and ate my phone's battery.

I'm hopeful there'll be a good replacement available eventually, but for now, I just have to stick with Plex.

[1] https://www.symfonium.app/

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by Cider9986 »

villish wrote: post #27
Cider9986 wrote: post #9

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This seems like spam in order to get people to sign up to a service with your referral link. It’s literally just a guide on how to create an account.

That's not mine. I can remove the link if it makes it look less spammy.. It's not always easy for people to do the setup.

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by frez1 »

yunaflox wrote: post #7

Does this introduce basic UX changes, like saying that a media will be permanently lost instead of "will be removed from Jellyfin" which is inaccurate? Edit: And making it more secure? Just because it is commonly for LAN doesn't mean it can be insecure

i believe the maintainers stance is that jellyfin should not be exposed and it should always be behind a vpn

Re: Jellyfin 12.0

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Post by amiga386 »

I had to go back from 10.11.x to 10.10.7 because the performance was bad, but I'm very confident they've fixed all the performance problems with this 12.0 release.

I'm also confident they've found most of the bugs and have produced something you can just upgrade to, given they've had 7 release candidates over the past few months:

   12.0 RC1 - Jun 22
   12.0 RC2 - Jun 28
   12.0 RC3 - Jul 22
   12.0 RC4 - Aug 02
   12.0 RC5 - Aug 11
   12.0 RC6 - Aug 26
   12.0 RC7 - Sep 01
   12.0     - Sep 08
Overall it looks like a lot of solid testing has gone into this, I shouldn't have to go back to 10.10 again.

UPDATE: Upgraded to 12.0, performance is great, better than 10.10 and 10.11, including in third party apps! No problems with the migration.

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