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Re: Thanks to Lake Ontario, MapQuest is popular all over again

#22
I get why people want Apple and Google to push back but ultimately there isn’t any logical approach for them to operate that isn’t “name things as the relevant governmental bodies name them”. Otherwise what source of truth is there?

The responsibility here is with a spineless government. An executive order is not a law and a congress that did its job would quickly contract these kind of mad king declarations.

Re: Thanks to Lake Ontario, MapQuest is popular all over again

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post #5

They'll get their 15 minutes, but there's no _there_ there. They're owned by System1, a bottom-of-the-barrel advertising company where 1990s web brands go to die (Metacrawler? Startpage.com?? Dogpile?!?!). Their maps are OpenStreetMaps maps. People think they have their back (because OSM is showing Lake Ontario), but it's just marketing.

as opposed to a top of the barrel advertising company like Google

There is significant differences in advertising. The things at the bottom of the barrel in advertising are often literally malware.

Re: Thanks to Lake Ontario, MapQuest is popular all over again

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post #22

I get why people want Apple and Google to push back but ultimately there isn’t any logical approach for them to operate that isn’t “name things as the relevant governmental bodies name them”. Otherwise what source of truth is there? The responsibility here is with a spineless government. An executive order is not a law and a congress that did its job would quickly contract these kind of mad king declarations.

The government has no right to name geographic features. The names are established by popular usage, not the feds. As such Google and Apple should not listen to the demands of a body which has no right to make them in the first place.

Re: Thanks to Lake Ontario, MapQuest is popular all over again

#26

I think a lot of people are desperate for tech giants to stand up to the current US administration.

As long as tech companies make a stand against superficial culture war fights like this nobody will care that they've caved w.r.t privacy over the last two decades. Sad!

Re: Thanks to Lake Ontario, MapQuest is popular all over again

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I've dumped Google Maps for OSM over three years ago and have not looked back. Did this as one of my de-Google steps by choosing a Fairphone.

Looking at a FuriLabs FLX1S to start the next phase by switching to a Linux phone.

I've become a sunk cost to Google by not spending anything on their products or services and always use Ad-Block solution in a private session if I must.

Re: Thanks to Lake Ontario, MapQuest is popular all over again

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Or we could not bend the knee to a single old man throwing a tantrum.

What about the executive order reads as someone throwing a tantrum?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/08/hono...

Re: Thanks to Lake Ontario, MapQuest is popular all over again

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post #22

I get why people want Apple and Google to push back but ultimately there isn’t any logical approach for them to operate that isn’t “name things as the relevant governmental bodies name them”. Otherwise what source of truth is there? The responsibility here is with a spineless government. An executive order is not a law and a congress that did its job would quickly contract these kind of mad king declarations.

What about researchers at universities? Maintain a list of experts and conduct a poll whenever an event like this happens or enough of the experts request.

Or require an act of Congress. Obviously, we can no longer rely on Executive Orders being careful, thought-out, or lasting changes. Does any mapping organization want to change names back and forth? Does any user want to see these changes?

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