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Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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This settlement benefits meta immensely. Are the journalists reading the correct judgement? The stock pretty much had a breakout when this news came out.

Like in "Chicago" they should have prepared 2 versions of the article, yet i guess they had only one.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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post #10

This settlement benefits meta immensely. Are the journalists reading the correct judgement? The stock pretty much had a breakout when this news came out.

Meta stock is up $400 since 2016-2018, when "teen mental health" first became a concern. It's clear that META has boomed since then. Fines have amounted to little more than a cost of doing business. Stern words amount to no more than empty threats.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parents really need to parent

How? Between 11 hours of work+commute, 8 hours of sleep and 2 hours of work-adjacent activities such as making food or household chores... there isn't that much time left in a day. That's also the reason why so many people don't have children any more, or only later in their life when they are economically settled.

I think the reason may be generational. The current parents are majority Millenials, the generation which didn't have to shoulder a lot of personal responsibility like previous generations. Thus when it comes to their children they as usually place the responsibility on anybody but themselves.

Both parents working actually i think is a net-good thing - it teaches children to be responsible from early age. As my parents were both working - USSR - even when i was 5 years old i was already watching my 1 year old sister. And we were pretty typical at that.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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post #10

This settlement benefits meta immensely. Are the journalists reading the correct judgement? The stock pretty much had a breakout when this news came out.

It's another case of people struggling with huge numbers. We just aren't prepared to tackle millions/billions/trillions very well.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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post #2

The only outcome I see from the Meta ruling is all of the other platforms getting spooked by the huge payout and starting to preemptively add aggressive age-gating and ID checks on everything on the internet (regardless of local legislation).

What other platforms (I think you mean social media) exist in the West? It's just Meta (Facebook, Instagram) and whatever company manages the western Tik Tok. Luckily, they are easy to stay away from. There is more to the internet than these 2 companies.

> There is more to the internet than these 2 companies.

Not as much as most people think.

A huge percentage of the physical world runs through these platforms - and if you add Twitter it gets even worse.

Plenty of groups I follow communicate exclusively through social media channels. If you want to know what events are happening there - in some cases even what hours they're open - it's through Facebook or Instagram.

For things which aren't formal businesses (photo clubs, bar popups, all sorts of things) it's even more prevalent.

Sure, if I want to sit in my house and discuss philosphy on Hacker News or IRC those exist, but it is very difficult to avoid Meta's platforms and have a social life - much less a dating life.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How? Between 11 hours of work+commute, 8 hours of sleep and 2 hours of work-adjacent activities such as making food or household chores... there isn't that much time left in a day. That's also the reason why so many people don't have children any more, or only later in their life when they are economically settled.

Phones have had parental controls already built in forever. My sister is a busy executive who commutes daily and she didn't let her kid have a phone until age 13, and when they bought an Android phone they signed up for one of the (many) existing parental monitoring apps. Which for ex will notify the parent when their child gets messaged from a new person not in their existing curated contact list. So their phone is…

> Phones have had parental controls already built in forever.

Most of them don't work as advertised.

> Parental monitoring and controlling usage on sites like Youtube and Facebook is a long solved problem, if the parent put any basic effort in.

How old are your kids?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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post #10

This settlement benefits meta immensely. Are the journalists reading the correct judgement? The stock pretty much had a breakout when this news came out.

It's another case of people struggling with huge numbers. We just aren't prepared to tackle millions/billions/trillions very well.

I'm ok with generic people struggling with that. But anybody covering tech or business should be able to work effectively with the numbers at hand. Anything less is journalistic malpractice.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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post #2

The only outcome I see from the Meta ruling is all of the other platforms getting spooked by the huge payout and starting to preemptively add aggressive age-gating and ID checks on everything on the internet (regardless of local legislation).

Parents really need to parent

Society depends upon having generation after generation of healthy members. That has never been a time when individual parents were sufficient to solve all the problems there. And even that were possible, directing all the attention on them acts to absolve Meta of all responsibility for their own actions.

If we're going to promote a policy of personal responsibility, let's at least look at all the persons involved.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's Social Reckoning

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How? Between 11 hours of work+commute, 8 hours of sleep and 2 hours of work-adjacent activities such as making food or household chores... there isn't that much time left in a day. That's also the reason why so many people don't have children any more, or only later in their life when they are economically settled.

I think the reason may be generational. The current parents are majority Millenials, the generation which didn't have to shoulder a lot of personal responsibility like previous generations. Thus when it comes to their children they as usually place the responsibility on anybody but themselves. Both parents working actually i think is a net-good thing - it teaches children to be responsible from early age. As my paren…

Governments require age verification to drive a car, purchase alcohol and other dangerous products, enter adult venues, and in various other scenarios. Why not for accessing Internet properties that are just as harmful?
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