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Why have I failed?

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Re: Why have I failed?

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did not listen people very well. I've heard them but did not actually listen. I kept on talking and talking. I couldn't care less if you're some guy with a fancy idea in his head with no clue on how to do anything about it or if you're Paul Graham himself, as soon as you stop listening to what others have to say, you're failing. My father rarely had anything insightful to say but one thing he did say that really stuc…

edit: clarification

I wholeheartedly agree with you; some personal other side of the story regarding the link in OP's article.

Lack of listening? That's not my experience with Bado. I know him in real life and I've worked together with him at a very young company/startup right when he came from Turkey to the Netherlands. That was a blast, both on a professional and a personal level. I also got to experience the Turkish hospitality when I had to work for three weeks in beautiful Istanbul myself. After both of us moving on to greener pastures we kind of lost contact though.

Last time I met him (and another former co-worker) was several months ago in Amsterdam; we had a great night; much booze was had and we bounced around from pub to bar to nightclub. But we also bounced back and forth all these ideas on entrepreneurship and all that. I remember telling him I was worried that he had a lot on his plate and that especially with his potential visa problems he was quite vulnerable.

But then again; you shouldn't take everyone's advice either. If Larry and Sergey had done that they wouldn't have started a search engine either ("too hard; Yahoo is king already"). But carefully weighing outside's viewpoints is a good idea.

In my personal experience Bado never acted like the smartest man in the room; he was always willing to learn and exchange books/ideas with me. But when starting to go down one road with your company one might close itself off a bit though. Sometimes it does pays to be stubborn though :)

Re: Why have I failed?

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Funny, had you been more successful (by any definition), most of these comments would still be true. Successful people make many of the same mistakes you're citing here.

I hate to paraphrase and respond to your entire post, but it was such an interesting one, so here goes...

did not take care myself; emotionally and physically

Yes! This must always be #1. As Vince Lombardi said, "Fatigue makes cowards of us all." If you don't have your health, nothing else matters.

did not listen people very well. I've heard them but did not actually listen. I kept on talking and talking.

Now you know. But you must still beware: don't listen to everyone equally. You must learn to distinguish good feedback from bad.

being an expat and entrepreneur is somewhat crazy when you know you're going to have visa problems. Too much instability in one man's life drains too much energy.

Naaa. If you wait until conditions are better, you'll wait forever. Almost always, the best time to do something is "now".

did not use my time wisely

Hardly anyone else does either.

tried to do too much

Don't we all?

should be less harsh on myself and others

This should always be the case. You must be brutally honest with yourself and others, but "harsh"? I don't think so.

was(am) stubborn when I should not be

This works both ways. Many of my biggest successes were the result of my stubbornness, when I was right and conventional wisdom and the feedback of others would have held me back. The secret is knowing when to be stubborn and when to go along.

was inconsistent ( ran ~90km in June '12 then in the last 6 months I only ran 30km )

Just about everything follows sinusoidal curves. Nature isn't very consistent. You probably won't be either.

did not ask for help

Now you know. But optimizing when, where, and from whom to ask for help is just as important as knowing that you must every once in a while.

never did true problem description. Should have write it down

Good idea. But don't forget that it can evolve. You may have to rewrite it every now and then.

should have connected with more people. Relationships matter a lot.

The right relationships matter a lot. The wrong ones are worse than none at all.

did not plan ahead the business

Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes the best journeys are taken one step at a time in what you think is the right direction. Don't kill yourself over a "plan" that you may never have been able to forsee anyway. Even in business, evolution is sometimes more important than driving home the plan.

do not write a 100 page business plan does not mean don't write it at all

Nice thought. A one pager may have helped you maintain focus on your true north.

started working on other ideas and lost focus when business needed the most

Yea, a common problem. I guess the first step in solving it is recognizing you have it. Good for you.

should take the money when a beta user offered to pay

Maybe, maybe not. That could have really jump started the project. It also could have derailed it.

should have postpone opening company till we have a paying customer base.

Usually a very good idea. A good guideline, but not a rule.

should have asked money from people

Maybe, maybe not. Same answer as your beta user.

rather than having a $400 Amazon EC2 instance, €30 p/m server was enough.

Good thought. Keep expenses low! Runway matters.

scalability problems should be solved when there are scalability problems.

That's easy to say now, but at the time you're building, it's often really hard to tell what the scalability issues might be. Go easy on yourself here.

have stuck in maker's obsession

That's a good thing, I think. We need more obsessed makers, not less.

wrote too much code. 30% became immediately unnecessary

This is always true. The problem is that while you're building, you rarely know which 30% will become unnecessary. As John Wanamaker said, "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don’t know which half."

did not prioritize what I should be working next

Absolutely! This is the second most important thing you said (after taking better care of yourself). Your To Do List only needs one item. Your most important job is making sure it's the right item.

should have learnt Celery before

Naaa. I've always believed that building the right thing will naturally guide you to learning the appropriate tools. A million "should haves" don't make any difference now.

should have learnt Flask before

See "Celery" response above.

more Backbone less spagetti JS.

You should never write spagetti in any language! Find a way to solve that problem before you ever write another line of code.

less code, less code, less code.

Refactoring is necessary but not sufficient. Again, go easy on your self.

my job is not programming. My job is delivering value using programming.

Semantics.

should release the app much more earlier

Maybe, maybe not. You can release too early and sabatoge the entire endeavor. This is another general guideline, never a rule.

should have fixed the showstopper bug and email users a.s.a.p. to say that we're sorry. ( Some users registered and tried the app when they shouldn't but since I left the Google login open, they've registered and saw a non-working app )

Yes. The customer almost always comes first and deserves their fair share of your service and respect.

did not look for a market very well

Are you solving a problem that needs to be solved? You must be.

did not able to explain the product in simple terms

Great point. This is usually trickier than it seems and is an absolute must.

did not try to sell the product, I've just build it

Another tricky point, but a very good one.

kept 600 people waiting for a demo while having a product

Not sure what this means, but it doesn't sound good. Live and learn.

should have integrated payment gateway much more earlier

Now you know.

Facebook & Twitter do not have quality content

So what? You must learn to focus on issues, not details. Most of your feedback here sounds like issues. This sounds like a meaningless detail.

I am a fool. A big one.

No, you're not and I have proof: A fool could have never written such an interesting post. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure this has helped others.

Re: Why have I failed?

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"I knew everything" I can't tell if this is serious, or if it was intended as some self-deprecation or something. Obviously the person knows they didn't know everything. But I can't tell by the writing if it's earnest or sarcastic.

Given the context, it's pretty clear that he thought he knew everything at the time, but now realises he didn't. One of life's more painful, but essential, lessons.

I thought it was clear, then I just wasn't sure.

Re: Why have I failed?

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did not listen people very well. I've heard them but did not actually listen. I kept on talking and talking. I couldn't care less if you're some guy with a fancy idea in his head with no clue on how to do anything about it or if you're Paul Graham himself, as soon as you stop listening to what others have to say, you're failing. My father rarely had anything insightful to say but one thing he did say that really stuc…

edit: clarification I wholeheartedly agree with you; some personal other side of the story regarding the link in OP's article. Lack of listening? That's not my experience with Bado. I know him in real life and I've worked together with him at a very young company/startup right when he came from Turkey to the Netherlands. That was a blast, both on a professional and a personal level. I also got to experience the Turki…

Don't get me wrong, my statement wasn't directed at Bado specifically. It was more of a general point aimed at those who feel they have little to learn from others.

But then again; you shouldn't take everyone's advice either.

You're right but again, that wasn't my point. My point is you should always listen. Sometimes you can learn more from other peoples mistakes (even if they don't consider it a mistake) than their successes.

Re: Why have I failed?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

edit: clarification I wholeheartedly agree with you; some personal other side of the story regarding the link in OP's article. Lack of listening? That's not my experience with Bado. I know him in real life and I've worked together with him at a very young company/startup right when he came from Turkey to the Netherlands. That was a blast, both on a professional and a personal level. I also got to experience the Turki…

Don't get me wrong, my statement wasn't directed at Bado specifically. It was more of a general point aimed at those who feel they have little to learn from others. But then again; you shouldn't take everyone's advice either. You're right but again, that wasn't my point. My point is you should always listen. Sometimes you can learn more from other peoples mistakes (even if they don't consider it a mistake) than their…

Yeah, I didn't even interpret your statement as to mean that. Edited and hopefully clarified my post now.

Re: Why have I failed?

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I don't think you have failed. I think your strategy has failed. Maybe a better strategy would have been to still have your job (part-time?) and still have a visa and then use the rest of the time to create your product. You might use a lot more time, but the great thing is that you always have something to fall back to (the chance of failure is huge when doing startups so it's good to have some kind of safety net). When/if your product starts to take off then you can then quit your job and apply for a entrepreneurship visa. I think it's a much more sane strategy than risking everything.

Re: Why have I failed?

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Reading his backstory, I think it was because he quit his job to become an entrepreneur.

He just put the cart before the horse, that's all. Find a good company, find a good project, work on it. When you see a true market for something, then and only then should you go after it.

Don't just be an entrepreneur because you think it's what you want to do—it's not about you, it's about the market and the value you can provide to it.

Re: Why have I failed?

#29

Reading his backstory, I think it was because he quit his job to become an entrepreneur. He just put the cart before the horse, that's all. Find a good company, find a good project, work on it. When you see a true market for something, then and only then should you go after it. Don't just be an entrepreneur because you think it's what you want to do—it's not about you, it's about the market and the value you can prov…

>Don't just be an entrepreneur because you think it's what you want to do-it's not about you, it's about the market and the value you can provide to it.

This should be considered a powerful quote that everyone should live by.

Re: Why have I failed?

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dang, a lot of what he wrote resonate with me. the difference is, i've been meaning to ASK people here in HN for some advice regarding my project (i don't dare to call it startup yet), but been deferring it since i haven't translated my website in english.

if i might add, for the Programming part: don't develop your startup with cool tech/language/framework you just heard yesterday. it's fun, but you'll get sidetracked big time.

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